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re: Medical Examiner: George Floyd was on fentanyl, died of heart attack.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:37 pm to cssamerican
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:37 pm to cssamerican
I think TMZ leaked the fentanyl news
May not be confirmed yet
May not be confirmed yet
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:41 pm to GEAUXmedic
So he just happened to drop dead at that moment?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 9:44 pm to OMLandshark
Even the toxicology report these people are creaming over has the cause of death as a homicide 
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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racist cop
Is there an iota of evidence this idea true, or just the traditional low IQ habit of branding everything they can't understand as racism?
wasn't he married to some Asian chick. So I guess racist but not white supremacist?
Just like gender is now fluid, we can't call some fig in a dress, fig. We have to call him non-binary fluid trans morph.
So why can't racism have multiplicity too? completely unfair!!!
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:10 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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I think TMZ leaked the fentanyl news
May not be confirmed yet
the press release version of the ME's report was sent out
fentanyl was confirmed
as was "recent methamphetamine use"... whatever that means
Posted on 6/1/20 at 10:37 pm to Chad504boy
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Would George be alive had he not put drugs in his system
Don’t know don’t care.
He had drugs and bad health and was alive up until someone kneeled on his neck for 8-1/2 min.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 6:57 am to thermal9221
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Don’t know don’t care. He had drugs and bad health and was alive up until someone kneeled on his neck for 8-1/2 min.
So if I drive 100mph into an embankment, it is the embankments fault because I was alive until impact? BS - doing things that lead to your death are absolutely to blame for his death. Poor health, drug abuse, resisting arrest. Not doing any one of those would have this man alive today. Doing all three at the same time are why he is dead.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 6:58 am to latech15
Every renowned, professional doctor involved in the case disagrees with you.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 7:11 am to NawlinsTiger9
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Every renowned, professional doctor involved in the case disagrees with you.
How do you convict a man for murder beyond reasonable doubt when the cause of death is his heart stop while he was on fentanyl? I guarantee you when the prosecutor heard that news he said, “f@ck me!” The fentanyl is a real hurdle in getting a murder conviction to stick. Then combine that with the police policy manual that confirms neck pressure is an approved and trained technique and I’m starting to believe that this is not going to be an easy case for the prosecution.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 7:13 am to AMS
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Cardiopulmonary arrest means he stopped breathing and having a heartbeat, as is the case in 100% of deaths.
He's right you know.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 7:19 am to cssamerican
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How do you convict a man for murder beyond reasonable doubt when the cause of death is his heart stop while he was on fentanyl?
The cause of death was listed as homicide
It was right next to the sentence on toxicology on the same report.
No police manual in the world says you are supposed to hold a neck restraint for that long, particularly after the man was unconscious.
I understand you’re saying what the defense will try and use - it’s just not going to hold much water with any rational group of people
Posted on 6/2/20 at 7:20 am to latech15
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So if I drive 100mph into an embankment, it is the embankments fault because I was alive until impact? BS
Well an embankment is an inanimate object that didnt change or do anything. Are you really trying to make a comparison? Logic be damned here.
If a person is highly allergic to a certain food and someone feeds it to that person and they eat it unknowingly, would you still blame the person for eating it?
GF is not completely innocent of everything, but lets not act like the cop didnt have anything to do with cause of death. its in the ME report that it did, yet people are getting hung up on the other aspects and playing dumb deaf and blind to cop aspect of the report
Posted on 6/2/20 at 7:22 am to NawlinsTiger9
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Every renowned, professional doctor involved in the case disagrees with you.
Yeah especially those hired by those that benefit from a finding that shows the cop at fault.
Like I said, pick any two conditions and he’s alive, not all three. All three, by the way, were completely his choice and completely avoidable.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 7:22 am to latech15
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So if I drive 100mph into an embankment, it is the embankments fault because I was alive until impact?
Only if the embankment comes over while you are laid out on the ground and crushes your neck for 8 minutes.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 7:28 am to latech15
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Yeah especially those hired by those that benefit from a finding that shows the cop at fault.
The one performed by the state ME says homicide.
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Like I said, pick any two conditions and he’s alive, not all three. All three, by the way, were completely his choice and completely avoidable.
What happens if I eliminate the cop's knee from his neck and add first aid measures?
Posted on 6/2/20 at 7:28 am to redstick13
I can't believe people are still saying "see! He had a heart attack! The officer wasn't completely in the wrong!" Kneeling for 8 minutes on the neck of a man who's asking for medical assistance is the definition of negligence. That's why he can be charged with manslaughter or murder 3. He misused the restraint, the guy died.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 7:30 am to GEAUXmedic
There’s no way back now. If those cops aren’t convicted, the shite is going to hit the fan like we’ve not seen it, and its going to have a real damaging effect on race relations regardless. You can show them all the science in the world and it wont sway them or calm their rhetoric. They’re hell bent on the narrative.
I personally think that regardless of the heart attack, the brutality was still there in the fact that none of the officers seemed the least bit concerned when the man complained of not being able to breathe, and it is regardless of the circumstances he was enduring. The calloused intent was there, and the unconcern for the mans well being was as well. I think its still murder, but if its not in a court of law, then American better prepare our proverbial arse hole for what’s coming in race relations and violence, because it will come with a fury, and from a lot more people than just those in attendance of these rallies. There’s going to be some real pissed of people, that you can believe.
I personally think that regardless of the heart attack, the brutality was still there in the fact that none of the officers seemed the least bit concerned when the man complained of not being able to breathe, and it is regardless of the circumstances he was enduring. The calloused intent was there, and the unconcern for the mans well being was as well. I think its still murder, but if its not in a court of law, then American better prepare our proverbial arse hole for what’s coming in race relations and violence, because it will come with a fury, and from a lot more people than just those in attendance of these rallies. There’s going to be some real pissed of people, that you can believe.
Posted on 6/2/20 at 7:49 am to latech15
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Like I said, pick any two conditions and he’s alive, not all three. All three, by the way, were completely his choice and completely avoidable.
He tried pretty hard and vocally to avoid having a knee with 150+ lbs of force on his neck if you haven't watched the video
Posted on 6/2/20 at 7:58 am to latech15
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Like I said, pick any two conditions and he’s alive, not all three. All three, by the way, were completely his choice and completely avoidable.
Profoundly stupid comment
a gem, actually
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