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re: McKnight shooter released from custody...Cliffnotes of Normand press conf inside

Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:06 am to
Posted by hashtag
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Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:06 am to
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To me, your argument doesn't support why he should've been released. I don't disagree with any of your points, but you should still keep him in custody in my opinion.
so, you'd be okay with the police arresting you and keeping you in custody just because of "race relations?" How long are you okay with staying in prison yourself, personally, to keep riots from happening?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:06 am to
I think im gonna participate in this riot. No justice no peace
Posted by Emiliooo
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:07 am to
If I shot and killed someone in broad daylight at a busy intersection? Then yes keep me in jail as long as you fricking need.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177270 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:08 am to
Guy better be on the next plane to old Mexico. 54 isn't a bad age to retire and live on the beach.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:08 am to
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What are you even talking about?


Are people really this dense?

54 year old white male driving an Infiniti coupe shoots a high profile, unarmed black male in broad daylight. Witnesses say he was the aggressor. He's released in less than 18 hours. Suggesting he's got more resources than the average perp in one of these situations is not far fetched.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:09 am to
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Witnesses say he was the aggressor.


not sure we can go that far.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:09 am to
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A witness, who declined to give her name, said she saw a man at the intersection yelling at McKnight, who was trying to apologize. The man shot McKnight more than once, the witness said. She said he shot McKnight, stood over him and said, "I told you don't you f--- with me." Then the man fired again, she said.



Was Clint Eastwood the triggerman?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:10 am to
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don't see how they can let him go without charges if they don't have opposing evidence (which they should've released by now).


Has releasing evidence ever compromised an investigation?
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177270 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:11 am to
Witness statements are almost always false. Even more so when racial factors may come into the story.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:12 am to
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.@MayorLandrieu praises police response, arrest of Jordan Clay. "We don't tolerate this type of behavior in the City of New Orleans."



That right Mitch...you tell em
Posted by BUGAtGOAT
Munroe
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:13 am to
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Member when you said there should be no trial? Just shoot him and be done with it.

Member?




I do. I spoke out of anger and assumed there was not more to the story. I was wrong. Feel better now?

Hope they release some details soon.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:13 am to
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Agreed. What the frick? Unarmed man gets gunned down in broad daylight, with witnesses, and no charges? Idiotic.



Yeah. This is Michael brown all over again. Witnesses saw that cop execute him while he was on his knees with his hands up and they never charged that cop.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:14 am to
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not sure we can go that far


Why not? At this point, the only witness statements that have been made public say he was the aggressor. If that changes, then the story will change accordingly.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:14 am to
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If I shot and killed someone in broad daylight at a busy intersection? Then yes keep me in jail as long as you fricking need.
how about this scenario?

You are in broad daylight. At a redlight, someone jumps out of their vehicle and starts threatening you with physical violence. They jump out of their vehicle and you see that he is way bigger than you and can easily do the harm that he has threatened to do. You slip the gun that's under your seat into your hand because you are threatened. He continually bangs on your window threatening now to kill you, etc.

You feel you have two choices: 1. Stay in your car and get physically harmed by this larger person, maybe even killed. 2. Defend yourself.

You shoot and kill him. 3 minutes later, "witnesses" who did not actually see the crime see you near the body and begin shouting about how you murdered that poor kid and saying things that are untrue.

You hang around. Tell the police everything. They arrest you. Bring you to the station and process you. They do some interviews and determine that you are telling the truth and that you have acted in self defense.

You are now still okay with them keeping you in jail as long as needed??? Away from your family??? Away from your job, your life??? Even though you did nothing wrong???
Posted by massiveattack
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Member since Oct 2010
11584 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:15 am to
Maybe the victim with previous gun and drug offenses wasn't without fault in this situation.


And the witnesses are almost certainly full of shite
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 10:16 am
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:15 am to
well how can you charge the cop when the cop shot through the car door meaning he felt threatened and there was a video of the sweet mike brown robbing a gas station and bullying a clerk just moments before the incident. At the point you have to assume he was a goon.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:15 am to
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Yeah. This is Michael brown all over again. Witnesses saw that cop execute him while he was on his knees with his hands up and they never charged that cop.


Except that was a cop attempting to make an arrest. This is an armed citizen shooting a guy in the street at 2:30 in the afternoon. Big difference. They better have some pretty clear evidence to release the guy this soon.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38158 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:16 am to
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Yeah. This is Michael brown all over again. Witnesses saw that cop execute him while he was on his knees with his hands up and they never charged that cop.




Except this didn't happen in a ghetto full of people sympathetic to Michael Brown. This happened at a busy commercial intersection where plenty of people with no dog in the fight watched.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25665 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:16 am to
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Even if there is only one wound, and if the witness said that she made up what she said, that doesn't negate the fact that he shot and killed McKnight while he was sitting in his car at a red light.

What caused him to shoot? And are they just going off of testimonies to release him? If so, I find that very very strange.




I wasnt saying thats why they released him. Im saying thats one example of the types of things cops look at.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:16 am to
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say he was the aggressor.


those witness statements are just final words and a bang bang.... an aggressor is what starts the confrontation that led to these events.
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