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re: McKinney policeman suspended after pulling gun on teens, etc....
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:16 am to StrongSafety
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:16 am to StrongSafety
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So people can't walk into neighborhoods any more ?
This reeks of racial hysteria and xenophobia.
Maybe the hassled kids should spend the summer walking on the sidewalks in this neighborhood. Maybe bring some friends along.
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:19 am to 777Tiger
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They were told to leave the neighborhood if they didn't live there.
What does your post about your neighborhood pool have to do with the quote above.
Many if not most of the kids did not have a right to be there. That is not being argued from I can tell. However, the overreaction of Rambo is what is being discussed and is what has caused this discussion.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:21 am to 777Tiger
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my neighborhood has several pools that are for use by residents and their guests only, HOA dues pays for the upkeep and sets the rules, is that racist and xenophobic?
Right, so if the security guards aren't getting it done, call the cops and have the cops break up the party. There is really no need to detain these kids. Just send them on their way. Frankly, who gives a shite if they run? They've left. You've done your job.
That shite happens every time a party is broken up. When I was a kid, I ran/walked away from the police nearly every time a party was broken up. I wasn't about to stick around and wait for the punishment to be doled out to the host, if there was any punishment to be doled out at all.
This whole situation escalated because the cop couldn't handle these kids running from him. I mean, seriously? You police white suburbia. Surely you've broken up a high school party before. Hell, it's pretty much all you ever do. That and pull over high school kids for phantom traffic violations in the hopes of finding something more sinister like *gasp!* a can of beer in the trunk(!).
What a fricking joke. This whole ordeal was a catastrophe only because of one cop's inability to control his fricking heart rate.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:23 am to novabill
In short:
- Teenagers were invited to a pool party while given the impression that entry was free from this DJ
- Some teenagers didn't have a Craig Ranch ID card and were clearly trespassing
- The trespassing teenagers refused to leave, so therefore the police was called
- People who seek conflict with a cop can expect bad things to happen to them
- Teenagers were invited to a pool party while given the impression that entry was free from this DJ
- Some teenagers didn't have a Craig Ranch ID card and were clearly trespassing
- The trespassing teenagers refused to leave, so therefore the police was called
- People who seek conflict with a cop can expect bad things to happen to them
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:25 am to novabill
The cop was not helping anything by trying to detain that girl, but did anyone else see what I saw when he pulled his gun? From the cops point of view one of the guys had his hand behind his back pulling his shorts up or something. From his side it might look like the guy was about to pull a gun. That's why I think he did it. That's why I think he told the other cops to go get that guy and he was brought back with what looked like a bloody mouth.
Terrible situation handling by everyone involved.
Terrible situation handling by everyone involved.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:25 am to tylercsbn9
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In short:
- Teenagers were invited to a pool party while given the impression that entry was free from this DJ
- Some teenagers didn't have a Craig Ranch ID card and were clearly trespassing
- The trespassing teenagers refused to leave, so therefore the police was called
- People who seek conflict with a cop can expect bad things to happen to them
- Tragedy almost resulted from teenagers acting unruly in the presence of a person unfit for duty
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:36 am to 777Tiger
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my neighborhood has several pools that are for use by residents and their guests only, HOA dues pays for the upkeep and sets the rules, is that racist and xenophobic?
Not necessarily, but there is this element that, IMO, cannot be ignored, in that many suburbs were made, at one point, for middle and upper class whites to evade integration. There's a reason why some of first public entities to shut down post-integration were POOLS.
There's an element of "OURS" and "THEIRS" and "trespassing" "coming into our neighborhood" that isn't as superficial as we wished it were
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:41 am to StrongSafety
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There's an element of "OURS" and "THEIRS" and "trespassing" "coming into our neighborhood" that isn't as superficial as we wished it were
if you're talking about gated HOA communities, of course there is
also really doesn't matter about race though, those people don't want white trash in their neighborhood either
its a class thing, not a race thing
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:42 am to StrongSafety
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for middle and upper class whites to evade integration
looking out of my window right now at my Spanish neighbor and she's pretty hot I might add, talking to her Indian, dot, not feather and fairly hot herself, neighbor, and down the block I'm watching one of my black neighbors giving instructions to his white lawn service guy
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:43 am to StrongSafety
quote:holy frick dude.
Not necessarily, but there is this element that, IMO, cannot be ignored, in that many suburbs were made, at one point, for middle and upper class whites to evade integration. There's a reason why some of first public entities to shut down post-integration were POOLS.
There's an element of "OURS" and "THEIRS" and "trespassing" "coming into our neighborhood" that isn't as superficial as we wished it were
I want to live in Trump motherfricking Tower but don't make enough.
I'm rebelling.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:43 am to Pettifogger
But the languages used by those within that community doesn't look any different than pro-segregationists. That's my problem. Why should people believe that the kids race isn't the problem when their rhetoric is dripped in pre-integration banter? Can we just ignore that / chalk it up to chance?
God forbid a bunch of (black)teens walking to a friends house in their neighborhood. That's the problem I have with assumed black male criminality. Its assuming guilty until proven innocent in an innocent until proven guilty society.
God forbid a bunch of (black)teens walking to a friends house in their neighborhood. That's the problem I have with assumed black male criminality. Its assuming guilty until proven innocent in an innocent until proven guilty society.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:45 am to StrongSafety
The ongoing problem we are facing is young blacks having a problem with authority. In this particular situation they didn't respect the residents nor law enforcement. When something bad happens because of the lack of respect then everyone gets all riled up on either side. This situation should of never happened because they shouldn't have been there in the first place. The young lady that does live there that threw the party and caused all this is the root of this problem. She didn't respect her own community, neighbors included.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:46 am to Salmon
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if you're talking about gated HOA communities, of course there is
also really doesn't matter about race though, those people don't want white trash in their neighborhood either
its a class thing, not a race thing
Well, explain the cop singling out the black kids.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:46 am to StrongSafety
Holy shite you're retarded. The Dallas suburbs are some of the most culturally diverse places in the nation. Craig Ranch is just a terribly uppity neighborhood where their shite doesn't stink.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:46 am to StrongSafety
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Well, explain the cop singling out the black kids.
its been discussed, pretty reasonably a few times.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:47 am to StrongSafety
The black kids were running. The white kids weren't
There. Your mystery is solved.
There. Your mystery is solved.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:48 am to StrongSafety
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explain the cop singling out the black kids.
well that wasn't what I was talking about
but the cop also let plenty of black kids go
I, nor you, have any idea why the cop singled those specific kids out
we don't know what happened or what was report before the video for those kids
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:50 am to 777Tiger
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looking out of my window right now at my Spanish neighbor and she's pretty hot I might add, talking to her Indian, dot, not feather and fairly hot herself, neighbor, and down the block I'm watching one of my black neighbors giving instructions to his white lawn service guy
I'm not saying everyone has a problem with it, I would say most people just want a quiet, well kept neighborhood.
But to this day, I have heard of white families leaving quiet, middle to upper class neighborhoods once black/minority upward mobility started to hit the neighborhood..ie the neighborhood got a little more ethnic
shite I heard of a black family that skipped town once the neighborhood got too black It still exists, sadly.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:51 am to StrongSafety
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But the languages used by those within that community doesn't look any different than pro-segregationists. That's my problem. Why should people believe that the kids race isn't the problem when their rhetoric is dripped in pre-integration banter? Can we just ignore that / chalk it up to chance?
God forbid a bunch of (black)teens walking to a friends house in their neighborhood. That's the problem I have with assumed black male criminality. Its assuming guilty until proven innocent in an innocent until proven guilty society.
I agree that it can be problematic. I also agree that people in a largely white neighborhood calling the cops every time they see a black kid is pretty nuts.
But let's say I'm a home owner in a very white and affluent neighborhood. I see two black guys walking down the street at 8PM. They look out of place, but not overtly threatening or anything. What should I do?
I probably wouldn't call the police, for one. But I'd keep an eye on them. Would you argue I should ignore this abnormality because more than likely they aren't up to criminal activity? Some certainly would.
I won't pretend there isn't an effort by some whites to stay away from black people. Some do it because they loathe black people. Most do it because largely black areas tend to be bad areas. Is it purposefully segregationist? Yes, in a little "s" segregationist sense. But is that wrong? I think it is indicative of a problem, but I'm not going to attribute that problem to white flight itself or exclusive practices themselves.
Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:53 am to StrongSafety
Safety you can't argue that this is a situation where black teens are being targeted. They were not supposed to be there. They were asked to leave and they didn't. They did not have respect for the people living in the community nor any authority figure. Just because they wanted to "have fun" doesn't give them the right to.
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