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re: McKinney policeman suspended after pulling gun on teens, etc....

Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:14 am to
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:14 am to
The cop did not do a great job in handling the situation. Should he have tossed that girl to the ground? It depends if he placed her under arrest and if she was resisting. It didn't look excessive to me if that was the case. Should he have taken out his gun? It looked like two guys were about to rush him from behind when he pulled it out. His actions don't seem unreasonable. He didn't point the gun at anyone and put the gun away when those people scattered that were threatening him.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:15 am to
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that scene is all I need to see to know he acted like an arse.

He needs to realize they are kids, the emotions are high, and it's best to get the situation under control and disperse the crowd.
He probably can't help himself he gets off on beating up people weaker than him.
Posted by Duckie
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:17 am to
True. He's now in a protected class.

But seriously, I wish more cops would use situations like these as a teaching tool for young kids. Explain why you don't run from cops and you comply. Basically you teach them to trust the police and comply in the future.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 10:20 am
Posted by Restomod
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:18 am to
Local black radio personality who lives in neighborhood speaks out...

Bamboozled
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:18 am to
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So basically a bunch of thugs ruined it for everyone.

ETA: Still doesn't justify the officer's actions towards some of the other kids.


Another reason to hate this cop, he totally flipped the narrative and added fuel to the fire.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:18 am to
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The cop did not do a great job in handling the situation.


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His actions don't seem unreasonable.


So his poor job of handling the situation was reasonable?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:20 am to
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Local black radio personality who lives in neighborhood speaks out...


nobody in this thread is making this about race
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:26 am to
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nobody in this thread is making this about race


I did. And so did the white kid who shot the video. I found it rather interesting that the only kids "caught" and the only kids "interfering" with police were black, while a white kid with a camera walked around between the black kids, who were all sitting in the grass, getting within ten feet of the cops. I think maybe once the psycho cop told him to leave. Maybe.
Posted by LordSaintly
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:32 am to
Yeah the white kid filming it was basically ignored.
Posted by NoSaint
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:35 am to
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I think maybe once the psycho cop told him to leave. Maybe.


i believe he asked him to back up, and he did.

kid filming never ran, never talked back, only time he engaged cops was returning the flash light, only time cop engaged him he complied..... surely you can see how its a little different than the girls. none of us know what specifically happened with the guys he chased.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:37 am to
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kid filming never ran, never talked back, only time he engaged cops was returning the flash light, only time cop engaged him he complied..... surely you can see how its a little different than the girls. none of us know what specifically happened with the guys he chased.



It's a fair point, but it becomes chicken-egg. Obviously white people interact with the police different. Arguably that's because they're used to having good interactions while black people aren't. But, teenage black girls raised to talk shite to police (or any armed person) is kind of fricked up and another societal discussion that needs to occur.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 10:37 am to
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Yeah the white kid filming it was basically ignored.


there were also plenty of black kids that were ignored

I don't know why he chose to go after the kids he did
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:02 am to
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So his poor job of handling the situation was reasonable?


So "poor" = "not great." That's one crazy scale of judgment if true.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 11:14 am
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:09 am to
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kid filming never ran, never talked back, only time he engaged cops was returning the flash light, only time cop engaged him he complied..... surely you can see how its a little different than the girls. none of us know what specifically happened with the guys he chased


Surely you can see how the girls were initially doing nothing, just standing nearby and psycho cop yelled at them to get to the other side of the street, while white boy is weaving in and out of the whole scene, camera on, helping out his black friends when he can by finding their clothing, and being far more intrusive than the simple act of standing nearby. The cop never told him to get to the other side of the street, never really barked at him. He simply walked free in and around the scene, even getting so close as to be within a few feet of psycho cop pulling his gun.

This is white suburbia. Some parents called the cops because a bunch of black kids showed up to the party uninvited. In other words, they were trespassing. Psycho cop saw a bunch of black kids and lost it because he couldn't control the situation. Every black kid became a suspect, including the girl he threw to the ground like a rag doll, despite being one of the few who had been invited and was not involved in any misconduct.

I'm not one to throw around the race card. In fact, I hate it. But holy shite, this looks bad to me. A bunch of kids in bathing suits is a major problem? Just break up the party and get everyone to go home. Why do you need to detain or arrest anyone? Just mishandled the whole way through.
Posted by StrongSafety
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:10 am to
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They were told to leave the neighborhood if they didn't live there.



So people can't walk into neighborhoods any more ?

This reeks of racial hysteria and xenophobia.
Posted by tylercsbn9
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:12 am to
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So people can't walk into neighborhoods any more ?



You can't in mass go to a pool in an HOA.
Play loud arse music at an event not approved by the HOA.
Jump the fence of the said pool.
It's not some community pool.

This has apparently happened before with the DJ at other neighborhoods. It wasn't just a few kids walking down the street.

This could have been handled better all the way around.

Kids could have left a place they weren't permitted multiple times. Kids and trashy mom could have handled themselves better. Kids could have left after the cops gave a number of warnings. Deputy Farva could obviously have done better.
This post was edited on 6/8/15 at 11:15 am
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:13 am to
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So people can't walk into neighborhoods any more ?

This reeks of racial hysteria and xenophobia.

my neighborhood has several pools that are for use by residents and their guests only, HOA dues pays for the upkeep and sets the rules, is that racist and xenophobic?
Posted by novabill
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:14 am to
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nobody in this thread is making this about race


Read carefully.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:15 am to
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So people can't walk into neighborhoods any more ?

This reeks of racial hysteria and xenophobia.



1/10

Can somebody ban this troll already?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 6/8/15 at 11:16 am to
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So people can't walk into neighborhoods any more ?

This reeks of racial hysteria and xenophobia.


It's bias, but I don't know if it is hysteria. I'm sure there are some instances (the Alabama elderly Indian guy comes to mind) where it is truly hysteria.

But the line between cognizance of abnormalities (noticing black youths walking around in a white neighborhood for no obvious purpose) and overboard profiling (calling the cops when you see a 13 year old black kid in the neighborhood) isn't always easy to draw.
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