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re: Math weirdness: Infinite gold is not enough
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:02 am to WildManGoose
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:02 am to WildManGoose
quote:
An actual 10 lb gold bar can not be divided into three equal parts, period.
Walk me through your logic here. Is it because humans aren't capable of accurately doing it?
Because if that's not your argument, you sound like a moron.
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:05 am to Korkstand
quote:
Why are you trying to "round up"?
I’m not the guy suggesting that .9 repeating equals 1. No matter how many 9’s you add into the next value place, you are still less than 1. Essentially what you guys are saying is that at some point within the infinity spectrum God just says “frick it this is boring” and rounds it up to 1.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:06 am to WildManGoose
quote:
An actual 10 lb gold bar can not be divided into three equal parts, period.
What if I create my own measuring system to define the 10lb bar as 3 "WildManGeese"
Now, each kid gets exactly 1 "WildManGoose"
The bar is divided equally.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:08 am to Jon Ham
quote:
I’m not the guy suggesting that .9 repeating equals 1. No matter how many 9’s you add into the next value place, you are still less than 1.
.9 repeating is 1/3 plus 1/3 plus 1/3, which does in fact equal 1.
I'm going to make a huge assumption and assume you aren't actually as dumb as this thread makes you look. What are you getting out of carrying this on?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:09 am to WildManGoose
quote:
It's theoretical and a moot point as far as this thread is concerned.
It is not theoretical. It is a real number.
.33 repeating is a real number which is exactly equal to 1/3
.99 repeating is a real number which is exactly equal to 1.
Imagine the gold bar is 3 feet long. Do you agree that you can cut it into equal thirds of exactly 1 foot each?
If so, why can’t you then take one of the 1 foot long gold bars and further cut them into equal thirds of exactly .33 repeating feet each?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:11 am to Jon Ham
quote:You've got to be trolling, eh?
I’m not the guy suggesting that .9 repeating equals 1
quote:Many kids learn about limits and calculus in high school. I see you weren't one of those kids.
No matter how many 9’s you add into the next value place, you are still less than 1
quote:I don't think you're quite grasping the concept of "infinity". Understandable, as it's not an obvious thing, but it never ends. Like never ever. So there is no stopping point where you just say enough is enough, this is equal to 1. Instead, it just IS equal to 1 because it is neverending. Just YouTube it instead of continually making an arse of yourself here.
Essentially what you guys are saying is that at some point within the infinity spectrum God just says “frick it this is boring” and rounds it up to 1.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:13 am to LNCHBOX
quote:
.9 repeating is 1/3 plus 1/3 plus 1/3, which does in fact equal 1.
I'll help him a little.
What is 1 minus 0.9 repeating? (i.e. 1-0.999...)
It is 0.000... repeating.
If a number minus a number is 0, those two are the same number then, correct?
i.e. 0.9 repeating = 1
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:14 am to Jon Ham
You're entire premise is incorrect. Due to the nature of dividing items by 3, you will never actual get to a true "equal distribution", though you can definitely get to a material version.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:15 am to Jon Ham
quote:
A man has a 10 lb gold bar and wants to divide it equally among his three children. He gets his wife’s cooking scale out and perfectly divides the bar into 3 equal pieces and gives one to each of his kids.
One of them is going to get a slightly larger piece, because a cooking scale has limits on accuracy.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:18 am to Jon Ham
quote:That’s your answer. 9.9999999999999 is definitely divisible by 3. And the result would be three equal pieces weighing 3.33333333333 each.
turns the sensitivity all the way up: 9.99999999999999999999 lbs. Those sons of bitches.
But, I agree with the poster above who said give em all 3 pounds and spend the rest on hookers and blow. Or, just blow, since that’ll bring the hookers.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:19 am to Korkstand
quote:
I don't think you're quite grasping the concept of "infinity". Understandable, as it's not an obvious thing, but it never ends. Like never ever. So there is no stopping point where you just say enough is enough, this is equal to 1.
How does infinity change 3+3+3 from equaling 9 to equaling 10?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:21 am to Jon Ham
quote:
How does infinity change 3+3+3 from equaling 9 to equaling 10?
3 =/= .3 repeating
You're making false equivalencies.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:22 am to Not Cooper
quote:
If a number minus a number is 0, those two are the same number then, correct?
A number minus a smaller number will never be 0.
.9 repeating is less than 1 unless the laws of “infinity” somehow change 3+3+3 from equaling 9 to equaling 10.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:24 am to LNCHBOX
quote:
3 =/= .3 repeating
You're making false equivalencies.
.3333333333
+ .3333333333
+ .3333333333
———————-
.9999999999
How far do we carry this out until 3 + 3 + 3 equals 10? Because that’s the only way we go from .9 repeating to 1.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:25 am to Jon Ham
quote:
How does infinity change 3+3+3 from equaling 9 to equaling 10?
Again the threes repeating is an approximation for your calculator. 0.3333 repeating is equal to 1/3 though, and thus add it together three times you get 1. Just like adding 1/3 three times.
Another proof for you:
Let x = 0.999 repeating
10x = 9.999 repeating
10x - x = 9.999 repeating - .999 repeating
9x = 9
x = 1
ETA: Let's do it with non infinitely repeating digits.
x = .999
10x = 9.99
10x - x = 9.99 - .999
9x = 8.991
x =/= 1
In the first case, since .999 repeats to infinity you still have it repeat to infinity when you have the decimal shift due to multiplying by 10. In the second, you don't. So you can't get to 1 the second way but you do the first.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 10:32 am
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:29 am to Jon Ham
quote:
.9 repeating is less than 1 unless the laws of “infinity” somehow change 3+3+3 from equaling 9 to equaling 10.
Do you agree that a 1 foot gold bar can be split into 3 equal thirds?
Three gold bars of exactly 4 inches each = 12 inches = 1 foot.
Exactly how many feet would each 4 inch gold bar be?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:31 am to PhiTiger1764
quote:
Do you agree that a 1 foot gold bar can be split into 3 equal thirds?
Three gold bars of exactly 4 inches each = 12 inches = 1 foot.
Exactly how many feet would each 4 inch gold bar be?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:37 am to Jon Ham
quote:
.3333333333
+ .3333333333
+ .3333333333
———————-
.9999999999
How far do we carry this out until 3 + 3 + 3 equals 10? Because that’s the only way we go from .9 repeating to 1.
Ok, so what is 10 - 9.999 repeating?
When do you ever get a digit that isn't 0?
You're being purposefully obtuse by overlooking the meaning of infinity.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:39 am to Jon Ham
quote:
.3333333333
+ .3333333333
+ .3333333333
———————-
.9999999999
How far do we carry this out until 3 + 3 + 3 equals 10? Because that’s the only way we go from .9 repeating to 1.
quote:
You're making false equivalencies.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:42 am to Jon Ham
quote:
How far do we carry this out until 3 + 3 + 3 equals 10?
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