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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:34 pm to notiger1997
Posted on 10/13/17 at 5:34 pm to notiger1997
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I think I may quote this in here every five pages. Bravo sir.
You don't realize you're being just as obtuse as those who think the real shooter was in a helicopter.
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 6:20 pm to VaBamaMan
And how exactly does it benefit the investigators to release any information? Let's say the shooter was part of some network or conspiracy. Any tidbit they release that you think is innocuous may tip off the at large suspects as to what exactly the cops know/don't know.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 7:11 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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During press conference today, @Sheriff_LVMPD confirmed my exclusive report from 10 DAYS AGO! "The suspect DID occupy the room on the 25th"
Posted on 10/13/17 at 7:18 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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And how exactly does it benefit the investigators to release any information? Let's say the shooter was part of some network or conspiracy. Any tidbit they release that you think is innocuous may tip off the at large suspects as to what exactly the cops know/don't know.
That is exactly my point.
But there are people insisting what you just said isn't a possibility. That the cops are being 100% truthful and forthcoming, and are in no way misleading the public about the direction of their investigation.
I'm fine if they are hiding information so they can catch certain accomplices, or because they are pulling on the loose thread that was Paddock. That is actually what I've been saying is a possibility all along.
I'm not a tinfoil hat wearer by any means. I've called out those guys as much, or more, than I've called out those who believe the official narrative.
I just think there is more to this investigation than what is being told to us.
Mainly, that they do know the motive.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 7:39 pm to VaBamaMan
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VaBamaMan
Good response.
I'm kind of with you. I think the authorities released more info that they even should have before they had their shite together and are now having cover their asses with every step to not appear more incompetent than before.
See the shooting story up near Clinton. They haven't released much and hopefully they are working on getting their ducks in a row for when they do.
I know the situations are much different, but it's just an example.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:09 pm to VaBamaMan
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But if you can't admit the FBI is purposefully withholding relevant facts, you haven't gone far enough.
I believe they a are purposely withholding information, they are in the middle of a investigation what purpose would it serve for them to reveal anything?
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firmly believe they know the motive, but for one reason or another, they aren't revealing it right now.
It has only been 12 days since the shooting, how could they possibly compile what is probably a mountain of information and come to a conclusion in such a short time?
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:12 pm to VaBamaMan
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:16 pm to notiger1997
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind they purposely misleading the public to protect someone or something. Simple Facts that should be white or black and easy to find just based on surveillance from the hallway are now changing
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:20 pm to Tiger in NY
Why would he legally buy firearms only to give them to ISIS? Seems like a giant hole in the espionage theory.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:24 pm to ninthward
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Why would he legally buy firearms only to give them to ISIS? Seems like a giant hole in the espionage theory
Sadly, the FBI has a history of this type of behavior.
I have a hard time believing it too, but it does make some sense.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:31 pm to Tiger in NY
One major flaw with that theory is paddock bought all of the guns using his own name over a full year's timeframe. If he was an FBI operative and he was present to do an arms deal with ISIS, the FBI would have given him a bunch of guns to use in the transaction. (not 30+ rifles he purchased legally in his own name).
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:33 pm to The Mick
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One major flaw with that theory is paddock bought all of the guns using his own name over a full year's timeframe. If he was an FBI operative and he was present to do an arms deal with ISIS, the FBI would have given him a bunch of guns to use in the transaction. (not 30+ rifles he purchased legally in his own name).
Makes sense. Maybe buying them legally was part of the cover? I don't know because it doesnt make sense, but there is the possibility that the guns weren't even the ones he was bought. IDK
We'll find out one day (probably years from now)
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:38 pm to Tiger in NY
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but there is the possibility that the guns weren't even the ones he was bought. IDK
The ole switch aroo.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:42 pm to The Mick
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One major flaw with that theory is paddock bought all of the guns using his own name over a full year's timeframe.
Well, that stunt they pulled in Texas was seemingly above board too. All of the guns were purchased "legally".
Edit: for the record, in no way, shape, or form, do I think he was gun running and this was a deal gone bad.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 8:45 pm to VaBamaMan
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Well, that stunt they pulled in Texas was seemingly above board too. All of the guns were purchased "legally".
Edit: for the record, in no way, shape, or form, do I think he was gun running and this was a deal gone bad.
I think they want the guns legal to push for gun control. If true, this seems like a one time gun buy moreso than an "arms deal". Dont want his co-conspirators smelling anything fishy.
ETA: I dont think this was a "buy" either, but I do think the FBI was aware of Paddock beforehand (as a friendly or known but tolerated criminal)
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 8:50 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:24 pm to The Mick
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not 30+ rifles he purchased legally in his own name).
Again, why have we only heard from 2 of the gun shops he bought from?? Those two only account for 3-4 guns and the tracer rounds... so where are the gun shop owners he bought the other 40+ from?? "Obtained legally" could be interpreted in many different ways when there's no proof offered as to places of purchase, date of purchase, video surveillance, paperwork, etc. We also haven't been told exactly what type the majority of the guns were.
If you're of the opinion he was dealing arms, "legally obtained" could be cover for him acquiring the guns from whomever he was "working for." And if there was a fully automatic rifle there, which of course would be illegal for him to possess/buy, do you believe the FBI would actually tell us that?? For all we know, the only guns he actually purchased himself could've been the ones found AT his homes...
I don't 100% buy the gun running theory yet, but I definitely don't think it's out of the realm of possibility like some do. And I most certainly don't believe everything the FBI puts out as far as "facts and evidence" go.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:28 pm to CheniereTiger108
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If you're of the opinion he was dealing arms, "legally obtained" could be cover for him acquiring the guns from whomever he was "working for." And if there was a fully automatic rifle there, which of course would be illegal for him to possess/buy, do you believe the FBI would actually tell us that?? For all we know, the only guns he actually purchased himself could've been the ones found AT his homes...
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 9:35 pm to Tiger in NY
What's the deal with these people all going missing or dying? Jesus, the woman survivor, and the valet guy? That doesn't make sense. Can only be 4 things. These people are being put in witness protection... The government is taking them out for some reason... Mandelay Bay is paying them to disappear... Or a statistical anamoly
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:06 pm to diat150
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valet guy
Wat?
Only thing I've seen reported is that he had a gag order from the FBI.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:11 pm to diat150
quote:Wait, what's going on?
What's the deal with these people all going missing or dying? Jesus, the woman survivor, and the valet guy?
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