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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/14/17 at 8:36 am to
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 8:36 am to
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Paddock arrived at hotel on Sept 25th (not the 28th that they originally claimed) and he said that this was known all along by them (then why lie?)--


His sorry explanation for that was that the investigators have known about the 25th all along, but that someone erroneously said the 28th to the press originally. Just an honest mistake.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 9:01 am to
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someone erroneously said the 28th to the press originally. Just an honest mistake.


Yeah- just an honest mistake that they continued to repeat for 8 days.

Honest mistake my arse
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60916 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 9:30 am to
Facebook is also apparently pulling her post(s)/shares detailing multiple gunman
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60916 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 9:42 am to
Anyone make the obviously timeline connection to Trump?

I mean the really obvious one.

He started stockpiling weapons a year ago when it was clear Trump would be POTUS.

Fires on a country music concert.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:06 am to
Additionally, if the latest timeline is to be believed, Campos' call to hotel security office would've taken place BEFORE maintenance worker Stephen Schuck's radio call to them. But according to the transcripts of Schucks call, it appears that hotel security did not have that information prior to Schuck's call...

quote:

Radio calls
Following is a transcript of two radio calls between maintenance worker Steve Schuck and his supervisor, and one between Schuck and a dispatcher:

Schuck: Call the police someone has fired a gun up here, someone’s fired a rifle on the 32nd floor down the hallway.
Supervisor: Copy
Supervisor: Make sure you’re out of the way.
Schuck: Copy
Dispatch: Base to 1016 city wants to know if you know a room
Schuck: It’s at the end of the hallway I can’t tell you what room. He looked like he fired down the hallway when I got close to the door.
Dispatch: Copy, so it’s down the 100 hallway, correct?
Schuck: Security is up here … 100 hallway don’t go …


LINK

Perhaps this is why Campos' radio and cell phone audio has NOT been released....
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:13 am to
Trump was going to shut down his previously protected sex trafficking operation


Not really my belief, but I've seen it out there (no evidence, just opinions)
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:40 am to
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wouldn't think it would be that easy. If the staff was familiar with them, they would probably recognize that she had not been with him. And if the staff wasn't familiar with them, they wouldn't accept a woman's id from a man, especially one with a different last name.


Paddock was a member of their VIP club, at every casino/hotel I have been too VIP clubs don't have to check in at the regular desk, they are handled by a dedicated staff, Paddock was dropping 10 to 30 grand a day, besides rooms and meals, it has been pretty well established the hotel had also comped him call girls, standard hotel rules, and procedures get thrown away for people like him.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Trump was going to shut down his previously protected sex trafficking operation
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:49 am to
now that unknownknight is here, i think the wackos officially outnumber the rest of us
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
150302 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:51 am to
quote:

Anyone make the obviously timeline connection to Trump?
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 10:52 am to
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notiger1997


That is why I posted it. I actually hope that were true, it would make Trump that much more awesome.
Posted by KyleOrtonsMustache
Krystal Baller
Member since Jan 2008
5184 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:41 am to
quote:

comped him


Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
1835 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 11:43 am to
Looks like they already knew of the 100 hallway, how would they know that without campos call, seems like dispatch had the info, but they just gather info and relay it to proper channels. I doubt they would say, oh yea we know all about that, Jesus already radiod in, we don't need your info.
Posted by LarryDavid
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2010
4207 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 2:25 pm to
Well that press conference was the death sentence to learning much of anything else. Nice attempt at the feel good ploy at the end, but it was way too obvious and forced before they took no questions.

Husband and wife can combine points to get rooms and some other comps, so I'm guessing they let his girlfriend fly because he was a high roller. Nobody plays that long without losing over that much time, even if you block off machines like he did.

Just so weird that casino is owned nearly 50 percent by that Saudi prince that hated Trump, then was disrespected by Trump. Then, the rooms above the 32nd floor always occupied by Saudis.

So many other things. There is so much more here than we'll ever know. I'm not so much saying conspired as I am just mis-information, withholding information and something just not smelling right.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 2:42 pm to
Well they likely knew which hallway/ stairwell door alarm was going off-- which was the reason that both guys were headed up there to begin with....

Here's LINK to the actual audio of Schuck's call-- it paints a better picture than just the transcript in my opinion.

After Schuck calls in "somebody is firing a rifle down the hallway on 32nd floor," the male on the base end yells out "hey it's on 32!"
Seconds later The female says "Stephen, security wants to know if you know a room number" to which he replies "security is up here".

The "security needs a room number" request indicates to me that the "security base" didn't know where their own security guard was at the time..

If Campos had indeed already made his radio/cell phone call like the police are suggesting, they would've already known: a) what floor b) what room number (campos would've known room number because he walked up to the door c) which hallway (with certainty) and d) that their own security guard was already on the scene to begin with

The fact that none of them seemed to know any of that info calls into question why Campos is being hailed as the hero in this situation.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12685 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 2:45 pm to
Or they were asking cause who knows if there's more than one shooter at that point and you should ask everyone the basic questions instead of assuming.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12685 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

so weird that casino is owned nearly 50 percent by that Saudi prince that hated Trump, then was disrespected by Trump. Then, the rooms above the 32nd floor always occupied by Saudis.

So many other things. There is so much more here than we'll ever know. I'm not so much saying conspired as I am just mis-information, withholding information and something just not smelling right.


Did you seriously just type that you aren't into conspiracy stuff literally the paragraph after talking about saudis and between sentences about how much we won't know?
Posted by LarryDavid
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2010
4207 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 3:00 pm to
read it I said "so much"

Nice job of reading between the lines
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 3:01 pm
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 4:43 pm to
What in that audio indicates to you that they were already aware of one shooting in the hotel and/or that they were questioning the possibility of second shooter??

And why do you think they have released Schucks audio call, but not EITHER of the "Hero" Campos' calls?!?! According to the sheriff, they both relayed the same info, so why hide only one?

Also, why has the "Hero who saved the day" suddenly disappeared?? And why does he and his house need armed security guards??
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
6066 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 7:45 pm to
Dan B. attempted to take him into custody but the FBI intervened
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