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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:12 pm to
Yeah WTF is the valet and why does he have a gag order?

More frickery
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:15 pm to
Probably because he's the reason we know Paddock got there on the 25th and not the 28th like they originally told us... they had zero intention of correcting that date until they were called out on it...
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
8301 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:21 pm to
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Probably because he's the reason we know Paddock got there on the 25th and not the 28th like they originally told us... they had zero intention of correcting that date until they were called out on it...


I kinda doubt the valet had enough access to get pictures off of a security monitor...just saying. Those pictures were how we knew about the 25th.

But before that, some Hispanic guy sent out a pic of his room service ticket for Paddock's room dated for the 26th.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:39 pm to
The valet was probably the one that leaked the screenshot of the valet system. That has a recorded image of Paddock's car.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
8301 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:59 pm to
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The valet was probably the one that leaked the screenshot of the valet system. That has a recorded image of Paddock's car


It's like you didn't even read what I posted.
Posted by CapperVin
Member since Apr 2013
10661 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:03 pm to
So many weird fricks in this thread.
Posted by Mr. Blutarski
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Oct 2012
1948 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:04 pm to
There could be something to the helicopter theory. If anyone has ever stayed at the Mandalay, there are helicopters taking off all day and into the evening constantly. My buddies and I commented one time that we should buy a helicopter and fly that thing all day and make some money.
Posted by iluvlsusports
Somewhere in South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
3673 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:10 pm to
Supposedly the Valet Guy is missing after doing tv interview and A survivor died in her sleep after saying there were multiple shooters. Saw this in a news article today.
Posted by iluvlsusports
Somewhere in South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
3673 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:12 pm to
On the police scanner they mentioned a guy in camo at the airport.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:21 pm to
Valet computer system

I was referring to these pictures-- a valet would have access to the computer system that stored the vehicle check in/ out data--
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:43 pm to
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Again, why have we only heard from 2 of the gun shops he bought from?? Those two only account for 3-4 guns and the tracer rounds... so where are the gun shop owners he bought the other 40+ from??


They are hoping, praying, and doing any other thing they can that will prevent the general public from finding out their shop sold Paddock the firearms. Once its public they will be bombarded with hate mail, and death threats, there are probably a few of the anti gun nuts crazy enough to even cause personal harm. Personal injury lawyers are also already signing up clients, even though it is a real stretch some will try to name the gun sellers as defendants.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 11:44 pm
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
6901 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:56 pm to
Exactly. They have nothing to gain by going public. I’m sure the ATF has already visited everyone to make sure everything was in order.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
8301 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:58 pm to
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I was referring to these pictures-- a valet would have access to the computer system that stored the vehicle check in/ out data--


I doubt it, in this case. I've done a bit of networking and database work. In a casino, those pictures of his vehicle would only be available on security monitors. Those systems are a lot more stringent than your average setup, and access to customer information would be extremely restrictive. Especially in the wake of what happened.

More than likely, valets would only be able to access the information required to do their job. Namely, whether or not the car in the garage and what space is it parked in.

Edit: I knew what pictures you were referring to.
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 12:00 am
Posted by Droplinebacker
Member since Jan 2004
890 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 1:39 am to
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Wat? 

Only thing I've seen reported is that he had a gag order from the FBI.



LINK
Posted by dawgsjw
Member since Dec 2012
2114 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 2:53 am to
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Yeah WTF is the valet and why does he have a gag order?


I saw on reddit that it was said that the valet guy said that Paddock seemed like a normal guy and didn't have many bags. It kinda puts a hole in the that Paddock snuck the guns in his luggage bags. Maybe he did, but this valet was saying at that time, Paddock didn't have many bags.
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 2:56 am to
I don't think I've seen it mentioned yet, but during today's presser, Lombardo again acknowledged that Paddock arrived at hotel on Sept 25th (not the 28th that they originally claimed) and he said that this was known all along by them (then why lie?)-- He stated that Paddock stayed in the same 32nd floor suite from the 25th-28th and that those nights were comped nights....but then he went further and stated that for the 28th, Paddock had booked the suite under Marilou Danleys name... however, when you check in to a hotel, the person whose name the room is booked under has to present their id for verification-- so how then, was Paddock able to check into a room booked for Marilou Danley, when she was out of the country? Did the female acquaintance he was seen with pose as Danley with an ID card belonging to her, or did MB drop the ball and not follow standard check in protocol when transitioning from comped to booked?
Posted by Placebeaux
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Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 3:04 am to
Most of the good Hollywood writers are probably fleeing the country right now hence the terrible scripts.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9666 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 4:09 am to
Her MB player's club card was found in his room. Maybe he used that as ID when checking in the 2nd time. "My girlfriend is in the shower. Here's her card."
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1679 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 5:44 am to
quote:

"My girlfriend is in the shower. Here's her card."


I wouldn't think it would be that easy. If the staff was familiar with them, they would probably recognize that she had not been with him. And if the staff wasn't familiar with them, they wouldn't accept a woman's id from a man, especially one with a different last name.

Also, why not book the room under his own name to begin with? If your going to buy the murder weapons in your own name, why not the room too?

Why release the audio of Schuck's radio call but not Campos'?? With all the questions specifically surrounding his actions that night, they could clear it up very easily by releasing that--and if this was a lone wolf attack as they continue to insist, release the surveillance footage of him in the hotel and him bringing his bags up, etc. That would not interfere with the investigation. And What is the excuse not to??!? WHAT ARE THEY HIDING??

All I know for sure is that with every press conference they have, and with every change in the timeline and facts, more questions and new discrepancies seem to arise...
Posted by iluvlsusports
Somewhere in South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
3673 posts
Posted on 10/14/17 at 6:07 am to
And the longer they continue to hold back video proof of Paddock in the hotel, and Campos, etc. The more people will think that they don’t have proof to back up their story. The two Campos photos with that group of men is a horrible photo shop job, which is very telling.
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