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Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:40 pm to
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why it took two weeks to get that information out succinctly into the public sure is bizarre though


I’m not big on conspiracy theories, but they have botched this investigation from the beginning, strictly from a security/evidence handling point of view...starting with the leaked photos of the dead shooter and crime scene. Police 101 is setting up a perimeter around a crime scene.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

All the conspiracy theorists in here are upset that the people they think are carrying out this conspiracy aren't telling us all about the conspiracy at press conferences.


Lol, somewhat true.

I feel like I'm stuck in the middle. I don't believe in the "gun deal" or "ISIS fired on the crowd" conspiracies at all.

But I do think they are aware of a motive, and are hiding the details of where their investigation is headed. Too many walk backs, changes, and "not at liberty to discuss that" moments in the press conferences.

They even went from the swat officers saying what was on the note in their 60 Minutes interview, to Sheriff Lombardo not being able to discuss the content of the note at Monday's presser.
Posted by iluvlsusports
Somewhere in South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:46 pm to
And the reason they won’t present this like in the BR Police shootings, is because this didn’t happen like they said it did.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:52 pm to
Found dead?
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:52 pm to
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How so? Why did he go to another floor then return to 32nd?



this is the timeline as i understand it

-at 9:59 pm the door was barricaded on stairwell side
-so Campos goes up/down (or down/up) using a different set of stairs and approached from the other direction (10:05 now)
-he takes fire (200 shots last we were told)
-he both radios and cell phones it in
-Paddock unloads soon after
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45118 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:53 pm to
Oh ok, so the barricade was at the stairwell not the shite in front paddock's room.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109184 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

The fuel tanks were fired upon with intent (no mention as to from where)


"Clearly the firing had to have come from inside the tank as shells were found in there."
- SwampBandit
Posted by Happygilmore
Happy Place
Member since Mar 2009
1835 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:56 pm to
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I dont see the logic in it though, unless they explained why he went to a different floor then returned to 32


i can see it. say he took the stair well because he was only one floor away and when he got to the door on the 32nd floor it was barricaded. he would then have to turn around and go back to the floor he came from, go all the way down the hall to the elevator or other stairs then go back to the 32nd floor that way and back down the hall all the way again.

with that being said, there should have been some radio call saying someone barricaded the stair well
Posted by iluvlsusports
Somewhere in South Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
3673 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 1:58 pm to
So this survivor disagrees with their narrative and turns up dead. What a coincidence.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109184 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:01 pm to
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JESUS frickING CAMPOS


This needs to become a thing.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109184 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:03 pm to
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Did they say why he had to go to another floor after seeing paddock's barricade?


Probably not the first time he's seen a door barricaded. Though that was so Harvey Weinstein could keep an aspiring actress from escaping.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61723 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:06 pm to
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"Clearly the firing had to have come from inside the tank as shells were found in there."
- SwampBandit
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96848 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:08 pm to
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-he both radios and cell phones it in


Thought he didn't have a radio nor a cell phone on him at the time he was allegedly shot?

Also, if Paddock fired 200 rounds at Campos, those bullets would be flying into the other rooms. Would like to see the photographs FROM inside Paddocks room across the hall.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:08 pm to
so he put 200 rounds down the hall (which nobody outside heard?) and they now say 40 seconds later is when he started blasting the crowd.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
8301 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:13 pm to
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so he put 200 rounds down the hall (which nobody outside heard?) and they now say 40 seconds later is when he started blasting the crowd.


But how does that fit with the new video we saw showing that he took pot shots at the crowd with a semi-auto roughly 40 seconds BEFORE the first full volley with a slide-fire?

The crowd is even running before Aldean starts his second song, so we know people in yhe crowd had already been shot before the first volley.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:20 pm to
quote:


But how does that fit with the new video we saw showing that he took pot shots at the crowd with a semi-auto roughly 40 seconds BEFORE the first full volley with a slide-fire?


and didnt' he shoot at tanks first?
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:27 pm to
Yep she was saying bullets are coming from all directions different angles
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:29 pm to
I really think the shooting came from helicopters. Not to say that there weren't any shots fired from The Mandalay Bay but the more I think about it helicopters
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 10/13/17 at 2:30 pm to
Damnnnnnn!!!!! I did not know that or think of that.

shite can be real now!
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