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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:13 am to
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:13 am to
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.If you watch any of these videos that sounds of the shots raining down is way to loud to be coming from 32 stories



I can't accept conspiracy theory from someone too stupid to know the difference between too and to.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:14 am to
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That, or he realized it wasn't 1999 anymore and there were like 2,000 people at Lollapalooza


Haha. Be that as it may, Lollapalooze would have been a much more difficult target for him logistically. Quite the distance to travel with his arsenal. I wouldn't think he ever had any intentions there.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:15 am to
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Here is my belief on what will come out about that one man in the end. I think the shooter is a hard corps left wing wacko and this was politically motivated. I think he was probably a "true believer" and wanted to do two things. 1. Get back at all the country music loving conservatives that voted our president into office. 2. Create an argument for gun control that was so strong no one could deny it. I think that's the reason for so many guns strewn about the place. It is also possible on one of his trips to the Philippines that he was radicalized and came back to do this specifically.



It's been reported that he enjoyed attending country music concerts.
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:16 am to
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I can't accept conspiracy theory from someone too stupid to know the difference between too and to.

Gets me every time, but hey you can sit here and think this is all true and he was the only shooter, it takes a blind/deaf person not to be able to watch a video and tell that that is not the case...Hell read through the early comments on this exact thread from the people listening to scanners and the police naming off multiple shooters in different locations!
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 9:19 am
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:17 am to
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Her gofundme has exceeded its goal 3x over now - but it's worth going to the page linked via the link above just to check out the updates


Glad I read that.

FYI, her neuro surgeon Ippei Takagi used to work in Little Rock. Knew him through one of his employees and hung with him a few times. Dude is an absolute genius of a doctor.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:17 am to
I think he could have been radicalized, but by all accounts he does not seem like your typical American left-wing nut.

Hunted, owned gun, listened to country music, worked for Defense contractors, spent his money on gambling and investing rather than donation to the Humane Society and GoFundMe campaigns....
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:19 am to
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.Hell read through the early comments on this exact thread from the people listening to scanners and the police naming off multiple shooters in different locations!


OMG, that happens in every one of these events. Literally, every one. Fog of war. You get all kinds of crazy reports. I have seen Zero video evidence that can't be disproven in about 30 seconds time
Posted by baldona
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:19 am to
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Hell read through the early comments on this exact thread from the people listening to scanners and the police naming off multiple shooters in different locations!


Every time there's a shooting, it sounds like multiple shooters and first reports are there are. Look at the Baton Rouge shooting and Dallas as perfect examples.

Paddock had multiple windows in different directions and possibly multiple caliber weapons. Two different size weapons out of windows facing two different directions could easily sound like 4 different shooters.

Posted by rondo
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:20 am to
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SwampBandit



This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 9:21 am
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:21 am to
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it takes an idiot not to be able to watch a video and tell that that is not the case


I actually think it's the opposite.

It takes an idiot to not realize that sound does crazy things depending on frame of reference of the listener(distance and angle from sound), quality of recording device (the previous would also affect the recording device), angle at which the sound is being produced, and objects in the path of the sound (echoes).

Believing in a conspiracy theory does not indicate that one is smart or clever.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 9:23 am
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:23 am to
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Paddock had multiple windows in different directions and possibly multiple caliber weapons. Two different size weapons out of windows facing two different directions could easily sound like 4 different shooters.



Do you want to go stand 400 yards away and let me shoot my AR and see the difference in sound at that distance compared to what you hear in the videos of people in the crowd!
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25913 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:25 am to
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Do you want to go stand 400 yards away and let me shoot my AR and see the difference in sound at that distance compared to what you hear in the videos of people in the crowd!


Will you be 400 feet in the air at night in the desert with basically a canyon behind you?
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:26 am to
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Believing in a conspiracy theory does not indicate that one is smart or clever.


Not saying that at all, but you watch the video of the cop in her car or taxi driver whatever the hell she was and listen for the muffled shots after the first rounds go off, you mean to tell me this guy shot, grabbed a different weapon and ran to the opposite window and started firing in 7 seconds and the difference in sound at the same level floor and 20-30' further in a direction is going to make that big of a difference in sound.
Posted by HogX
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:26 am to
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Believing in a conspiracy theory does not indicate that one is smart or clever.


I always like when conspiracy theorists call other people "sheep" when they're just being led by a different herder.

Most likely some dude that works the 2nd shift at McDonalds that comes home and sits in his basement parsing together anecdotal evidence to support what he hoped actually happened.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 9:30 am
Posted by ElroyJetSon
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:26 am to
Dude, shut the frick up
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:29 am to
LINK

This is the video I am referring too. The guy brings up some pretty valid points..
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:31 am to
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@frankmacekwkyc
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#BREAKING Las Vegas gunman booked rooms in a Chicago hotel facing Lollapalooza music festival in August usatoday.com (USA TODAY)



Maybe he just went to the show. His brother said it was nothing for him to up and fly somewhere.

They only put stuff like this and the rap concert out there to water down the motive of the place he actually shot up.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:33 am to
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This is the video I am referring too. The guy brings up some pretty valid points..


He makes no accounting for the fact that one window (the lookers left window) was facing the roundabout, while the other (producing the farther away sound) faces totally away from the entrance to Manadalay. He is not taking any of the building dimensions into account.

He is also claiming that there are now multiple windows blown out at the Mandalay Bay. Well then, it is fricking AMAZING that neither CNN, FOX, nor MSNBC has shown them. Not once. That video is, at best, reaching, and at worst flat out lying in its imagery.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 9:38 am
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
114938 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:34 am to
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They only put stuff like this and the rap concert out there to water down the motive of the place he actually shot up.


And so people on social media can say "OMG I was at that concert. I almost could have died!"
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:35 am to
Okay i just want to know how he got up from one window and ran to a different room in 7 seconds and started shooting again!
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