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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:36 am to Sasquatch Smash
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:36 am to Sasquatch Smash
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His car was parked 2000 yards away
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You mean feet, right?
Good Catch, That's correct. That puts it at over 650 yards. No way the 5.56 has the energy to get there, penetrate the car and set off the Tannerite.
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Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:36 am to SwampBandit
quote:Not that hard to comprehend really.
Okay i just want to know how he got up from one window and ran to a different room in 7 seconds and started shooting again!
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:37 am to SwampBandit
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This is the video I am referring too. The guy brings up some pretty valid points..
We had this discussion 2 days ago. There are too many variables. He was shooting from 2 different windows facing different directions from where the video was filmed. He could have been shooting with the barrel sticking out of the window and then could have shot from further back into the room. You have to take into account sound bouncing off structures depending on which window he was using at the time... etc, etc, etc.
There are lots of different reasons the sound would change.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:38 am to SwampBandit
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Okay i just want to know how he got up from one window and ran to a different room in 7 seconds and started shooting again!
Jesus really? He had guns set up and ready in both rooms. They are probably 30 feet from each other. How long does it take you to get from one side of a suite to another?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:39 am to SwampBandit
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Okay i just want to know how he got up from one window and ran to a different room in 7 seconds and started shooting again!
You act like he had to go down the hallway or some shite. He just walked across the suite.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:39 am to eitek1
Where was his car actually parked?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:40 am to The Mick
So after reading this thread this morning
Multiple shooters. Leftists. Who did this to push for stricter gun laws.
Never change tigerdroppings
Multiple shooters. Leftists. Who did this to push for stricter gun laws.
Never change tigerdroppings
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:40 am to SwampBandit
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If you watch any of these videos that sounds of the shots raining down is way to loud to be coming from 32 stories up and 400 yrds awa
Copy paste from my response in a suppressor thread. Most people are ignorant about the sound generated from a rifle. I didn't know the distance so I guessed 200m in my math. If it's closer to 400m subtract 6dB from the values I give. Sound drops 6db per doubling of the distance so the math from 200m to 400m is easy.
I do [some] acoustic engineering so I'm familiar with the math. Lets do some math.
Google says an AR15 shooting standard ball ammo will measure around 158dBL at 1m. Your hearing is instantly damaged at 140dBL without hearing protection. At 200m away the sound would be 108dBL
A suppressed AR15 is measured around 136dBL for a good quality can. At 200 meters the sound level would be measured at 88dBL. That's a little louder than standing beside a running lawnmower. Can you hear a lawnmower when you are standing beside it? That's how loud an AR15 shot suppressed from 200m away is. But... that is just the measurement of the muzzle blast. Any high powered rifle the bullet is supersonic and is propagating a supersonic shock wave (sonic boom) as is moves down range. That is the "crackling" sound you will hear down range. Again google search finds some testing that shows a bullet's supersonic shock wave will be in the range of 135+ dBA and there is nothing a suppressor will ever do to mask that sound signature. That is a 135dBA noise propagating down the lane of fire you that you should easily be able to hear unless you are deaf. -6dB per doubling of the distance away from the shock wave you are still over 100dBL when you are over 56M away from where the bullet passes by. That shock wave noise level is constant until you hit about 1300fps then it starts dropping off quickly. Plugging numbers into my ballistics calculator, standard XM193 556 ball ammo will not drop down to that velocity level until you hit the 600 yard range.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:40 am to terd ferguson
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He could have been shooting with the barrel sticking out of the window and then could have shot from further back into the room.
This definitely would be a good reason for the next shots being muffled. Look i dont like the conspiracy theory stuff, i honestly dont, but I just feel like this is a sketchy thing and stuff seems to be off.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:42 am to SwampBandit
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Look i dont like the conspiracy theory stuff, i honestly dont
Then why post the most asinine of any of the conspiracy videos I've seen yet?
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:42 am to SwampBandit
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Okay i just want to know how he got up from one window and ran to a different room in 7 seconds and started shooting again!
How? HOW? You want to know how?
Like this, but maybe a bit faster:
I'm really surprised you've never seen a person walk from one room to another through an open doorway. You've lived a boring, sheltered life.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:43 am to Sasquatch Smash
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I'm really surprised you've never seen a person walk from one room to another through an open doorway.
To be fair, they don't have Suites at the Red Roof Inn.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:47 am to SwampBandit
quote:The guy in this video does not know what he is talking about.
This is the video I am referring too. The guy brings up some pretty valid points..
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:51 am to When in Rome
Has this now turned into a 9/11 conspiracy thread? If so, I'm out!
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:51 am to Sasquatch Smash
The human body is truly amazing.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:52 am to DeoreDX
And a youtube video of what it sounds like 300m away. The loud high pitched crack is the supersonic shock wave. The lower volume lower pitch sound is the report from the muzzle blast. The supersonic shock wave is generated by the bullet and travels along the bullet path. People ignorant of the phenomenon might confuse the super sonic shockwave with the report of the muzzle blast. Because the sound generation is traveling along with the path of the bullet, this could confuse someone into thinking that louder crack they hear is the muzzle blast therefore assume the bullet is coming from the direction they hear the sound which is actually where the bullet traveled not the direction it came from.
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This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 9:53 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:54 am to Sasquatch Smash
Lollapalooza draws about 400,000 people over its four days.
And while the festival is set back in the park, at the end of the night when 100,000 are emptying the park, it could have been a horrendous blood bath
And while the festival is set back in the park, at the end of the night when 100,000 are emptying the park, it could have been a horrendous blood bath
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 9:55 am
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:55 am to Count Chocula
A conspiracy thread would actually be a good idea imo
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:56 am to SwampBandit
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This definitely would be a good reason for the next shots being muffled.
The louder sounds are most likely the supersonic shock wave from the bullet and the muffled sounds are the actual report from the rifle Because the bullet is traveling over 3000fps the sound from the supersonic shock wave will arrive well before the sound of the muzzle blast traveling only 1100fps.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:56 am to eitek1
Two questions:
Did they ever say what is in those tanks?? They keep talking about fuel in there, is that true?
Haven’t caught up since last night, did he have tannerite in his car?
Did they ever say what is in those tanks?? They keep talking about fuel in there, is that true?
Haven’t caught up since last night, did he have tannerite in his car?
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