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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion

Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:22 am to
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:22 am to
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He was a wacko leftist with dreams of gun control (more likely)


Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45120 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:25 am to
Correct, nothing new so far on motive.

Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2836 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:40 am to

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A stripped down AR-15 weighs about 8 pounds.


I assume your post is meant to point out the misinformation I put out. For the AR platform a lightweight rifle is considered to be anything in the 6 pound range. I know this because I built a light weight. It weighs 6.5 pounds. If you search for average weights of AR-15's on google you will get answers on the high side of 7 pounds and 12 pounds fully loaded with scope.

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He would have only been able to hit this with a 7.62/.308 rifle or larger due to the range and velocities needed to set off the Tannerite and light off the fuel tanks.


His car was parked 2000 yards away from his room. Sorry but the 5.56 round just doesn't have the legs to get there. If it does, it doesn't have the minimum velocity to set it off once it gets there. For instance you can't reliably set off Tannerite with a .22 round. At those ranges the 5.56 becomes a low powered .22 round.

The rest is speculation and I've labeled it as such.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25913 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:44 am to
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His car was parked 2000 yards away


You mean feet, right?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24198 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:49 am to
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This morning Walton and Johnson were quoting a former Ranger about how hard and how much effort it took to run a machine gun in combat.


Lol, those guys are paid to support whatever media spin they want at the time. It's not hard at all to run a stationary 'machine gun' thats set up with everything you need appropriately. The difficult part comes from running a gun and moving it around the field of combat, which was not the case here.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24198 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:51 am to
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His car was parked 2000 yards away


You mean feet, right?


Yeah where is the info on this? Even 700 yards is a stretch, and he had to shoot into/ through his vehicle?

Has anything officially been released on his car actually being shot up? Given all the planning 700 yard shots seem a stretch for this guy. Sure hitting a van a couple of times with a 50 round mag wouldn't be that hard but setting off the tannerite from that distance would not be easy. Seems like he would have come up with a better plan than that imo.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56286 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:54 am to
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This morning Walton and Johnson



Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45120 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:55 am to
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Has anything officially been released on his car actually being shot up?
I didn't hear anything about the car being shot, but fox last night was saying there are bullet holes in the fuel tanks but obviously weren't enough to cause any damage or ignite the tanks.
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2015
19457 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:57 am to
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I didn't hear anything about the car being shot, but fox last night was saying there are bullet holes in the fuel tanks but obviously weren't enough to cause any damage or ignite the tanks.


It's clear that the second window broken was for the tanks correct? Looks like the line of site to me.

Sounds like it could have been a lot worse.
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Premium Member
Member since Nov 2011
42053 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 8:59 am to
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@frankmacekwkyc
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#BREAKING Las Vegas gunman booked rooms in a Chicago hotel facing Lollapalooza music festival in August usatoday.com (USA TODAY)
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45120 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:02 am to
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It's clear that the second window broken was for the tanks correct? Looks like the line of site to me.
I believe so, yes.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45120 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:03 am to
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#BREAKING Las Vegas gunman booked rooms in a Chicago hotel facing Lollapalooza music festival in August usatoday.com (USA TODAY)
Damn...
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24198 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:03 am to
I think we can officially say that country music had nothing to do with his plans, which frankly removes a lot of political reasoning too.

The other festival in Vegas earlier in the month and Lollapalooza are far from 'conservative' politically.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25913 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:03 am to
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#BREAKING Las Vegas gunman booked rooms in a Chicago hotel facing Lollapalooza music festival in August usatoday.com (USA TODAY)


I wonder if he was doing dry runs in his head. Watching how crowds behaved at these large events.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45120 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:07 am to
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I think we can officially say that country music had nothing to do with his plans, which frankly removes a lot of political reasoning too.

The other festival in Vegas earlier in the month and Lollapalooza are far from 'conservative' politically.
I was thinking along these lines as well. Unless maybe he was getting a feel for these kind of outdoor events and going through a mock plan...who knows.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:08 am to
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I wonder if he was doing dry runs in his head. Watching how crowds behaved at these large events.


That, or he realized it wasn't 1999 anymore and there were like 2,000 people at Lollapalooza
Posted by SwampBandit
Livonia, La
Member since Jun 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:09 am to
So i am not going to read through all of this but is everyone believing that Paddock was the only shooter. The video footage of the cop in her car if you watch it sounds off 5 gun shots that sound extremely close and 7 seconds later you hear 13 shots at a long distance..All this talk about it is echoes is complete bull because the echo would not occur 7 seconds later nor will there be 6 more consistent shots in the echo....I do not believe at all that he was the only shooter judging from the sounds of gunfire and having shots on top of shots and sounds of different distances....Also the video that looks like a security guard shooting into the crowd at ground level is sketchy....If you watch any of these videos that sounds of the shots raining down is way to loud to be coming from 32 stories up and 400 yrds away, i am not saying the Paddock was not shooting but i am saying he wasnt the only one...

Did anybody see the photo of the girl they interviewed and there is 2 more pictures of the same girl on the news dressed different with different names.....All of this isnt adding up and it is sketchy as shite
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 9:10 am
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
10147 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:11 am to
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All of this isnt adding up and it is sketchy as shite
Posted by USEyourCURDS
Member since Apr 2016
12921 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:13 am to
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SwampBandit


Poli board post is poliboardy
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5636 posts
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:13 am to
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Did anybody see the photo of the girl they interviewed and there is 2 more pictures of the same girl on the news dressed different with different names.....All of this isnt adding up and it is sketchy as shite


Considering this has happened in every conspiracy theory over the last 5 years or so, you'd think they'd stop doing this and giving it away

These dudes are allegedly deep state with ties that run deep throughout the country and all they can find is one broad to give a wig and different names to? Come on bro.
This post was edited on 10/5/17 at 9:21 am
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