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Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:10 pm to rondo
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They just said if the shooting had continued they would have went in.... they treated it like a barricade situation since no shots were being fired. Don't be so obtuse
I'm not being obtuse. I'm trying to figure it out.
At 10:26 one of the LV LEO's calls in the security guard having been shot in the hallway. Then he says there's a 4-man team on that floor.
Trying to figure out why no one engaged until an hour later.
They're saying if the shooting resumed, THEN they would engage? That doesn't make sense to me.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:10 pm to VaBamaMan
What was with the AR sitting by the door though? Looks like he had that set up for an ambush when the cops busted in
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:12 pm to Charlie Arglist
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What do you think about the Mossberg Shockwave?
not fun to shoot. that grip doesn't provide enough resistance to recoil
only mossberg i would own is the 590A1
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:12 pm to Carson123987
“Mossberg pistol pump grip in my lap at all times”
- Youngbleed (how you do that there)
- Youngbleed (how you do that there)
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:13 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
quote:Why the hell not?
They're saying if the shooting resumed, THEN they would engage? That doesn't make sense to me.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:13 pm to The Pirate King
yes
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:14 pm to TigersSEC2010
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Her arse won't be making it off the plane without half of LAPD surrounding her.
This is the LAPD we're talking about though...
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:15 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
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They're saying if the shooting resumed, THEN they would engage? That doesn't make sense to me.
not sheriff srs
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:16 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
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Trying to figure out why no one engaged until an hour later.
I'm sure they were scared of a booby trapped door. Just think if they kicked the door in a bomb went off?
If there is no shooting, gather a little Intel. They may have seen the camera on the cart and backed off. You need the element of surprise when you kick a door in. If the dude can see you coming on a monitor he will just sit and pick you off.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:17 pm to ReauxlTide222
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Why the hell not?
Because if you're Prepared to engage an active shooter, why wouldn't you engage an inactive shooter?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:18 pm to kengel2
Yeah doors are funnel points so if he knew you were coming it's no bueno unless you have the right breaching equipment
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:21 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
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Because if you're Prepared to engage an active shooter, why wouldn't you engage an inactive shooter?
The sheriff said that the situation became a barricade, as opposed to an active shooter once he stopped firing out the window. Would have been a bloodbath if they popped the door with him facing it with a full auto rifle
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:21 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
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Because if you're Prepared to engage an active shooter, why wouldn't you engage an inactive shooter?
They weren't SWAT. They shouldn't be engaging at all unless stopping an active shooter is needed
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:21 pm to kengel2
But if mini sheriff says they were prepared to engage had the shooter begun firing again, then they still would have been susceptible to all that stuff.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:22 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
quote:They weren't prepared to engage in that specific situation where he's not currently shooting.
Because if you're Prepared to engage an active shooter, why wouldn't you engage an inactive shooter?
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:22 pm to Carson123987
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:23 pm to Charlie Arglist
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What about with 1 3/4 buckshot shells? Low recoil.
Get this shite out of here
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:24 pm to rondo
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They weren't SWAT. They shouldn't be engaging at all unless stopping an active shooter is needed
If that's official protocol, then so be it.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:24 pm to Fontainebleau Dr.
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But if mini sheriff says they were prepared to engage had the shooter begun firing again, then they still would have been susceptible to all that stuff.
There’s a difference between engaging out of necessity of halting him from killing civies and engaging him without swat team and without proper gear when he’s not engaging anyone.
Their protocol was to not engage until swat arrived.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 9:26 pm
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