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Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:40 pm to gatorrocks
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Or just buy it from your local drug dealer.
most people don't know or have a local meth dealer
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:40 pm to SUB
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With that argument, grenades should be legal for purchase because anyone can just make an IED.
Were grenades ever available for purchase by citizens? Technically, they were never "banned". So no, not the same.
And yes, anyone can make and IED. Look at the Boston bombers.
Point being... People who want to kill, will find a way to kill.
Guns, trucks, homemade bombs, planes... All tools of mass murder.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:42 pm to cas4t
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local meth dealer
Meth users do!
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:42 pm to OysterPoBoy
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I’m definitely not anti gun. I own several. But if full auto guns are illegal or require a special license then a product that basically makes a semi auto gun operate full auto should also be illegal
That's kinda my thought process as well. Full auto weapons aren't illegal, but they're difficult to get, and they're expensive. Whatever we're doing with fully automatic weapons seems to be working, as I cannot recall a shooting involving a fully automatic weapon. I can get behind the same regulations on modifications that simulate automatic fire rates.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:42 pm to gatorrocks
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It's easy to make one
Honestly though, is it? Some people would say whittling a fricking trinket out of wood is easy, but most people can't really do it well. I'd like to think a fully functioning bumpstock wouldn't be so easy.
If it's so easy, do you know how? I sure as shite don't.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:42 pm to Hammertime
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Don't ISIS people typically let everyone know they're in love with Baghdadi and Allah as they're doing stuff?
That is basically my point. For terrorism to be effective you have to be aware what you are supposed to be terrified of. Some overt declaration (like a manifesto or identification with some group) is needed.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:44 pm to cas4t
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:46 pm to SUB
quote:Not quite. The security guard was shot and a police officer found him and the door/room way before that. He was interested/enquiring about engaging the shooter or room, but was told no, wait for SWAT.
All the shooting lasted only about 10 minutes. It took them over an hour to find him.
The hour it took to bust in, IMO, was mostly because of the shooter giving up on him attack on the crowd.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:48 pm to gatorrocks
that first video has aluminum bent perfectly, bolted on, etc..not everyone can make that and it be as effective as buying one legally manufactured.
And again, just because you can make it illegally, doesn't mean it should be legal. At minimum you can make them have to work to do it, with the probability of it breaking increasing exponentially when it's some ghetto rigged POS taped on and zip tied.
And again, just because you can make it illegally, doesn't mean it should be legal. At minimum you can make them have to work to do it, with the probability of it breaking increasing exponentially when it's some ghetto rigged POS taped on and zip tied.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:49 pm to ReauxlTide222
On a local level
I wonder if this will cause any security changes to Bensons Tower during events at Champions Square/smoothie king arena
Or hotels along canal during Mardi gras
I wonder if this will cause any security changes to Bensons Tower during events at Champions Square/smoothie king arena
Or hotels along canal during Mardi gras
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:49 pm to gatorrocks
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All I'm saying is banning them is futile.
It's easy to make one and if someone is willing to go out and kill 59 people, the last thing they're worried about is following the law .
Like I said, ban it. Doesn't matter to me. But it's going to do nothing to prevent someone from doing the same exact thing with a home grown version of it.
I'm not sure if that works in this case. Fully automatic weapons are legal to own and can fire much quicker than a bump stock, but Paddock didn't use them. Why? Probably because the regulations and cost.
I understand criminals don't follow the law, and I'm pro-gun, but this defense doesn't hold water in this case, IMO.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:50 pm to LasVegasTiger
Anyone find out what types of weapons Paddock used?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:50 pm to Isabelle81
it's all over the news
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:50 pm to OysterPoBoy
quote:I tend to agree at this point.
I’m definitely not anti gun. I own several. But if full auto guns are illegal or require a special license then a product that basically makes a semi auto gun operate full auto should also be illegal.
It also makes me angry with Dems and liberal media.
Here we have an issue that certainly deserves airtime and they can't even learn enough about the entire gun issue and industry to form an even halfway coherent start to a debate.
It instantly turns people off because they come off as idiots who don't actually care about the subject and in turn, we don't trust them to make decisions on it for us.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:52 pm to Isabelle81
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Anyone find out what types of weapons Paddock used?
other than the photos of the guns he used?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:52 pm to ReauxlTide222
Was he still shooting when the first group of cops showed up (not SWAT)? If not, he just offed himself at a random time. Don't ISIS people always get in shootouts? I thought it was their job to take out as many people as possible
He certainly had plenty of loaded mags left
He certainly had plenty of loaded mags left
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:53 pm to gatorrocks
Here's a tour of the room videoed by a previous guest. They never show the other bedroom because Paddock actually had two rooms. Next to the first TV area, you can kind of see where the doorway is to the other hotel room. Seems the room has also been redecorated since this video, although hideously. As you'll see, the gunman had the perfect vantage point to the venue (looks covered in the video.)
Tour of room 32-135
Tour of room 32-135
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:54 pm to Havoc
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Can you maybe say that instead of stating it as fact as you did?
I put in parenthesis what i make of the fact that his brother stated that his gambling was video poker. No need to edit.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:55 pm to cas4t
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that first video has aluminum bent perfectly, bolted on, etc..not everyone can make that and it be as effective as buying one legally manufactured.
You could print on your 3D Printer
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