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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:12 am to OceanMan
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:12 am to OceanMan
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Look, I am a gun owner. An advocate of gun ownership. Steering conversations in ways that are basically to say "I know more about guns than you" are worthless.
Not sure why you are getting so defensive over one post dude.
Discussing different or more effective ways of using firearms isnt bragging or steering conversations at all, not sure why you feel debate about it "is going nowhere"
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And it is still a ridiculous position.
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I simply don't find it relevant.
Thats the agree to disagree part. Someone else might. Move along if you dont.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:13 am to baldona
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The blood on the chest is odd,
maybe cut his hands breaking glass? maybe that much rapid fire cut his hands or something?
then wiped it on his shirt
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:13 am to Hammertime
That’s what I’m saying... I bet that guy is between 17-24 years old
I can think of several family members around the shooters age that have zero online footprint
Still don’t understand why that’s so hard to understand
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:13 am to Mr. Hangover
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Not if he pointed the gun straight backwards, or back and up

Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:14 am to Hammertime
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I said it before, but there isn't a picture of me online and I'm 33. Some people don't care enough about what other people think to put their shite online.
You must be a lame arse dude then. If none of your friends or girlfriends have posted a single picture of you online in the past year, you must literally never leave the woods. Anytime I'm with friends or family at all, I'm probably in the background of multiple pictures.
If this guy was that involved with guns, he's likely been to some sort of gun or shooting event where pictures were taken. If he gambled that much, he likely was drinking with people taking some sort of pictures where he was in them even in the background.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:16 am to baldona
A lot of times folks shot in the head are basically dead, but they continue to breath ineffectively and their heart beats while they build intercranial pressure or bleed out....so he may have been basically dead, got center massed by infiltrating LEO and just a smidgeon of blood around that wound....he died like a pussy though...I've always said, don't go to the principles office for arguing...little bitch didn't go out like a man, he went out like the coward he was. He wanted to shoot people who don't shoot back
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:19 am to baldona
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pieces of public information. Again, all online. Multiple LLC's, again all online.
Someone in this thread already found a few of his holdings and LLC's via public record. The MSM is just either too lazy to find and report it, or it's not part of what they're told to say for whatever reason.
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personally don't post on facebook, twitter, etc. But I can still promise you the media could find 100s of photos of me in the past year online from friends and family.
How old are you? And are you retired recluse? Or are you friends with a bunch of people who post on social media.
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This guy had a pilot's license and multiple real estate holdings,
Neither of these things require social media presence or hundreds of online pictures. Maybe you get a picture from his pilot's license. That's it. Real-estate holdings don't require pictures. He owned a small minority piece of an llc that held a piece in the holdings. He wasn't a public figure head.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:19 am to baldona
Nope. My family and friends are the same way. We just don't take pictures of ourselves, and don't use FB or anything. I've never had FB, Instagram, etc.
Hell, I got pissed at one buddy when he had FB logging where we went one night. I don't want people seeing what I'm doing or where I'm at.
It's easy to understand how he doesn't have a social media presence
Hell, I got pissed at one buddy when he had FB logging where we went one night. I don't want people seeing what I'm doing or where I'm at.
It's easy to understand how he doesn't have a social media presence
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 11:25 am
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:21 am to upgrayedd
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That's individual trigger pulls, i.e. semiautomatic.
Who or what exactly is "pulling" the trigger? The gun or the person? The finger remains stationary with a bump stock, doesn't it? I'm not trying to be an arse, it's an honest question.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:22 am to baldona
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You must be a lame arse dude then. If none of your friends or girlfriends have posted a single picture of you online in the past year, you must literally never leave the woods
You just described the shooter
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:23 am to RATeamWannabe
quote:At distance, sure.
There is a very good argument that lives were spared because of the faster rate of fire. There is a reason the Marine Corps moved away from full auto and burst fire and insisted on semi automatic, aimed fire for their marksmanship programs. Fully auto weapons are more for support and suppression for fire and movement, rather than just "mow down" a wave of people.
If he had walked into that venue, FAR more people would have been hit with his setup than would have been hit with truly semi-auto fire.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:24 am to baldona
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If this guy was that involved with guns, he's likely been to some sort of gun or shooting event where pictures were taken. If he gambled that much, he likely was drinking with people taking some sort of pictures where he was in them even in the background.
Yeah but if he is in the background they would be very tough to find, not like he would be tagged in them.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:24 am to Hammertime
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Nope. My family and friends are the same way. We just don't take pictures of ourselves, and don't use FB or anything. I've never had FB, Instagram, etc.
Hell, I got pissed at one buddy when he had FB logging where we went one night.
It's easy to understand how he doesn't have a social media presence
Generally speaking I agree with you, and yeah this guy had little family.
But I've seen 2 or 3 pictures total of this guy in the past 5 years. 2 or 3. 10 pictures I could understand, but 2 or 3 is strange as shite.
His girlfriend regularly takes pictures of her travels. So he does have someone having pictures taken regularly. So the idea he doesn't, is simply un true. He may have told her not to include him, but that begs the question why?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:25 am to Mr. Hangover
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Tell me, why do you think you’re entitled to such pertinent information right away? They are still investigating everything, yet you feel like you should have the same access to information that the police have?
Why? It's simple - with online property records access, it should be very simple for most internet sleuths to have figured out some of this guy's property records out by now. It's just surprising that more of the 4chan/Reddit crowd hasn't just yet. I'm not asking for the police to release information prematurely, just surprised others haven't uncovered much yet.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:26 am to dfintlyHmmrd
If you don't want your picture taken or name printed at a shooting event, you can say so. It wouldn't be abnormal
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:26 am to Psychoanalysis
quote:ehhhh
If he had taken his time, and fired single shots, re aiming and steadying after each shot he could've killed hundreds rather easily in a matter of minutes rather than 58 over 10 minutes.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:29 am to Hammertime
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Nope. My family and friends are the same way. We just don't take pictures of ourselves, and don't use FB or anything. I've never had FB, Instagram, etc.
I'm the same way. Some people's lives have been taken over by social media, so they can't comprehend that there's people out there that don't partake in it. I've never had a Facebook page and I probably never will. I just don't care about that stuff.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:30 am to baldona
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His girlfriend regularly takes pictures of her travels. So he does have someone having pictures taken regularly. So the idea he doesn't, is simply un true. He may have told her not to include him, but that begs the question why?
Everything about the situation is very odd. FBI Agents and Forensics have their job cut out for them on this one. It is kind of sickening thinking about all of the taxpayer dollars that will be wasted because of this selfish demented a-hole.
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:30 am to baldona
quote:Kinda my stance on this. I don't post things on social media. I don't use Facebook and I have an instagram account with no pictures in it.
Generally speaking I agree with you, and yeah this guy had little family.
But I've seen 2 or 3 pictures total of this guy in the past 5 years. 2 or 3. 10 pictures I could understand, but 2 or 3 is strange as shite.
His girlfriend regularly takes pictures of her travels. So he does have someone having pictures taken regularly. So the idea he doesn't, is simply un true. He may have told her not to include him, but that begs the question why?
My GF takes all kinds of pictures that I get included in at times.
People don't find it strange that she takes frequent pictures, yet he isn't included in any?
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:31 am to baldona
My GFs have all been on FB. They don't post pictures of everything they do. Like I said earlier, I don't take pictures, and I'm rarely in pictures. I just don't like it, and I don't care what anyone else thinks of what I'm doing or have done. People post pictures online so they can brag and get attention from other people.
It's really not hard to stay offline
It's really not hard to stay offline
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 11:34 am
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