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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:03 am to
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:03 am to
Someone said that the way they number floors is fricked up. Like the 20th floor would be labeled the 27th floor or something
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:04 am to
I heard that yesterday listening to a replay of the police scanner. The cop on the scanner said it. That whole thing was frustrating listening to it. The first guy on the scene told the shooters location. The next 45 minutes seemed to be total confusion. You had 2 windows knocked out of the building and they were still asking if anyone knew where the shots came from.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:04 am to
quote:

In one situation:
Everyone should wait for the facts and let the investigation conclude before making conclusions.

quote:

In this situation:
Why don't we have all the facts already damnit!? Clearly something bigger is going on and there is a cover-up!



So in both of your scenarios, we just want facts?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91778 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:05 am to
quote:

A man from North Carolina gave a walkthrough tour of the same room at Mandalay Bay where the shooting was carried out.
Which is weird. Dude was there for the same concert as well.

Holy coincidence.
Posted by TigerFred
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Member since Aug 2003
27881 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:05 am to
quote:

VPD also said last night that Paddock didn't kill himself and made it out of the room at one point shooting at officers; so much confusion.


Didn't hear that one.

Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34928 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:06 am to
Neitha me
Posted by OptionRight
Down da skreet
Member since Sep 2010
852 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:06 am to
Doesn't look like he took one to the head to me, I've seen plenty of them....looks like he took one to the chest and bled out...if he had taken one to the head, you would know it....that blood on his head came from the mouth and nose....you would see facial disfigurement and or noodles if he had taken one to the head...
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34928 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:06 am to
Not if he pointed the gun straight backwards, or back and up


***I know nothing about gun shot wounds but I’d put money on that being a headshot
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 11:07 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88138 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:07 am to
Pretty sure the sheriff said that he had originally shot at the first officers to respond with one getting shot in the leg. They backed off and waited for SWAT. When SWAT returned and breached, they found him dead by suicide already.
Posted by Psychoanalysis
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2017
125 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:07 am to
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There's almost nothing, as said less than 5 pictures on a 64 year old is pretty incredible.



It's really not. People way overestimate because of the dominance of social media today and because most of the message board grew up with it.

Facebook/ constant social media didn't even take off until this man was what? 55?

I know quite a few family members over 60 with 0 social media presence. We see them occasionally on holidays, other than that they keep to themselves.

By all accounts, the guy kept to himself, had little contact with his family, had no social media, and was retired. It's not crazy that there aren't tons of pictures of him. He's was a reclusive retired old guy with no Facebook account. There are plenty of people who fit that description.

They have spoken to neighbors, golf course workers, family, and gun shop owners. All said he was a nice enough quiet guy who kept to himself.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 11:15 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68840 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:09 am to
quote:

you would see facial disfigurement


Did you not see the picture? Looked like what I would expect a .38 to the inside of the mouth to look like.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 11:10 am
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
15464 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:09 am to
So when was the festival announced?

He had to have made a reservation after they announced the festival dates... Most likely he would have demanded he have a corner suite. Wonder how far in advance of the festival he booked a room.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24267 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:09 am to
quote:

No, it’s really not.. not everyone puts their life on the internet.. I know it’s a tough concept to grasp this day in age... but think about his age man



LOL, you are the one being ignorant here. I personally don't post on facebook, twitter, etc. But I can still promise you the media could find 100s of photos of me in the past year online from friends and family.

This guy had a pilot's license and multiple real estate holdings, all of that involves multiple pieces of public information. Again, all online. Multiple LLC's, again all online.

There have been 2-3 photos found, and one of them looks to be over 5 years old. That's incredible.
Posted by OptionRight
Down da skreet
Member since Sep 2010
852 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:10 am to
I mean he could've ate the revolver and you just can't see the back of his melon...it's possible I'm sure, especially with the left eye open and the other is closed...could be...the important thing is that the cocksucker is dead...hope he suffered like the coward he is....the chest wound may just be LEO entering room and center punching him to confirm he is assuming room temperature....there's not much blood there
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:10 am to
I said it before, but there isn't a picture of me online and I'm 33. Some people don't care enough about what other people think to put their shite online.

Sure, you could find me based on my TD posts, but other than that, nothing.


Eta: I very rarely take pictures
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 11:13 am
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
Mid-View New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
2401 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:10 am to
I remember the sheriff saying they initially believed the shooter to be located somewhere between the 29th floor and the 32nd floor.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91846 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:11 am to
quote:

This guy had a pilot's license and multiple real estate holdings, all of that involves multiple pieces of public information. Again, all online. Multiple LLC's, again all online.


And that information is readily available and pretty boring. I'm looking at it.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24267 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Doesn't look like he took one to the head to me, I've seen plenty of them


The blood on the chest is odd, but that picture absolutely looks like the few pistol shots inside of the mouth suicides that I've seen.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:12 am to
Slackster:

quote:

The same thing can be heard on the Mandalay Bay cab video (assuming you're talking about a different video).

That is easily explained by the two different windows and the different directions they faced.


Thank you for the explanation.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27881 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 11:12 am to
That is what I had heard as well. Rocket posted this link: LINK

quote:

Law enforcement officers had conducted a floor by floor search beginning on the 29th floor. Upon arriving at Paddock's suite on the 32nd floor, they announced themselves. Paddock responded by shooting through the door, wounding a security guard in the leg, Lombardo said. "They received gunfire. They backed off and SWAT responded," said a somber Lombardo. They entered the room to find Paddock dead. The sheriff said investigators believe Paddock killed himself.
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