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re: Masks required in Jefferson Parish
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:52 am to lsunurse
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:52 am to lsunurse
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Nope
People weren’t being cautious at all. No social distancing here. No masks. Just acting like the virus had just disappeared.
When Ducey opened the state wide open May 16...people came from other states to party here. Bars by me in Scottsdale packed. Our lakes packed as well Memorial Day weekend
And yes...protests as well. That certainly didn’t help. Anytime you get a massive group of people together isn’t gonna help.
Bars are and have been risky environments for this, as are other enclosed and close quarters places.
Outside shite, unless shoulder to shoulder, are non-issues.
And of course people are going to stop being cautious. We are social creatures. We are tired of this shite. And, whenever you have politicians and medical professionals coming out and saying huge protests are cool even in the age of SARS 2.0, it's understandable that law-abiding folks are going to say "frick it" as well.
Also, we shouldn't ignore the elephant in the room with these border states, L.A. Times reported on it previously and now even CNN is reporting it.
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:53 am to Twenty 49
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My grandpappy refused to ration food or recycle rubber and steel for WWII when those government pricks insisted on it. He was special, by god, and not bowing to the overlords.
FDR's Office of Price Administration rationed cars, tires, gas, fuel oil, coal, firewood, nylon, silk, and shoes. Most Americans (sheep) used their ration cards and stamps to take their meager share of household staples including meat, dairy, coffee, dried fruits, jams, jellies, lard, shortening, and oils.
But not old Pap. He bought on the black market and hoarded that shite. Greater good, my arse, he always said.
Back then, he was looked on as an a-hole. But in today's America he would be an anti-mask hero and maybe even get elected to Congress.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:54 am to lsunurse
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positivity rate of tests is increasing.
Not as good as a metric as I once thought it to be, it's becoming to be less powerful without context, just like case numbers.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:55 am to Pintail
OK Karen
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:56 am to lsunurse
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AZ is seeing a huge increase in COVID hospitalizations now. Also an increase in deaths and our positivity rate of tests is increasing.
And it's still a fraction of a fraction of your population.
You're distilling this entire issue through the lens of the world you live in, while the the overwhelming majority of the people in your state have had zero impact from the disease, yet a massive impact from the policies made in the name of "safety".
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 7:57 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:57 am to Dizz
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how are masks going to result in more deaths
All it does is delay infections.
We need healthy ppl to get infected and develop immunity.
As we drag this on the elderly, die of depression, die because they cannot isolate forever and get infected. Etc.
The way to mitigate deaths with a non seasonal virus without a vaccine is to control who gets infected.
Masks or no masks total number infected will not be changed.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:59 am to Sasquatch Smash
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And, whenever you have politicians and medical professionals coming out and saying huge protests are cool even in the age of SARS 2.0, it's understandable that law-abiding folks are going to say "frick it" as well.
I understand that frustration as well. My coworkers and I have watched some of that coverage just shaking our heads thinking “wtf?”. Knowing what it means concerning COVID in our area.
I just want things to go back to normal. I’m tired of dealing with COVID stuff daily at work.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:00 am to lsunurse
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People weren’t being cautious at all.
I am not here to argue. Tell me where I am wrong.
I am curious as to why we need to be so cautious? 98+% of deaths are people over 65 or 70 yrs old. "Normal" people without certain conditions (respiratory/weight/etc.) are simply not dying.
so, at this point, are we now trying to shield people from this virus? well that is not where started, and only going to guarantee that future will hold an even worse outbreak.
Someone mentioned giving up freedoms...if you are scared, stay at home. I am not scared, therefore, I am not staying home.
Why has not a single "leader" (that I have seen) openly used this "pandemic" to push for better health habits? Because they want more and more control of our lives. The unified message from every politician should have been that if you live a healthier lifestyle, then you have nothing to worry about.
Why do you think that cumulative Hospitalizations/Deaths are the numbers they push in front of us daily, but not that 99% of people fully recover? It is fairly obvious that this thing has become a power/money grab for politicians.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:04 am to lsunurse
If the size of the virus is 10 microns and the mask is only built to stop 30 micron or larger objects, what's the point of wearing a mask?
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Ben Franklin
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Ben Franklin
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:06 am to YeahYeah
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Wrong. People with health conditions that prevent them from wearing a mask have to be offered the same services as those without the health condition.
Your example is like a business in the 1960s telling a black person they have to eat outside
Thats an absurd analogy
The ADA and Face Mask Policies
quote:
If a person with a disability is not able to wear a face mask, state and local government agencies and private businesses must consider reasonable modifications to a face mask policy
quote:
Examples of reasonable modifications to a face mask policy
Allow a person to wear a scarf, loose face covering, or full face shield instead of a face mask;
Allow customers to order online with curbside pick-up or no contact delivery in a timely manner;
Allow customers to order by phone with curb-side pick-up or no contact delivery in a timely manner;
Allow a person to wait in a car for an appointment and enter the building when called or texted; or
Offer appointments by telephone or video calls.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:10 am to Screaming Viking
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Why has not a single "leader" (that I have seen) openly used this "pandemic" to push for better health habits? Because they want more and more control of our lives. The unified message from every politician should have been that if you live a healthier lifestyle, then you have nothing to worry about.
I actually heard someone on the CBS Evening News last night mention obesity rates in relation to this.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:11 am to Riolobo
Lol at there being such a refusal to wear a mask and try to help stop the spread of this shite. These will be the same people that say the government destroyed small businesses when they might’ve survived if you just wore a simple mask on your fricking face
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:12 am to Screaming Viking
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why hasn't a single leader pushed for better health habits?
Amen!
These people have had 3 months to eat healthy, exercise, and get in shape!
This should have been pushed from the start as a component of overall mitigation strategy.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 8:15 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:13 am to Riolobo
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Masks required in Jefferson Parish
In businesses that comply. Not all will make people do this and JPSO will likely not enforce it. It'll be more enforced at bigger businesses
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Shopping for groceries, eating, getting my hair cut, going to the gym
Gyms are not requiring it. Its for retail, restaurants and grocery stores.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 8:18 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:14 am to Riolobo
None of you silly counts advocating for this are understanding one important thing.
IT
IS
NOT
A
frickING
LAW
Which legislature duly deliberated on and passed a bill that was then signed into law by the executive? NONE, you fricks. Where in any Constitution does any executive have the power to unilaterally force you to wear a piece of apparel on your face? NOWHERE. Courts are going to kick these tyrants in the fricking peepee the first time one of these cases gets to them.
You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.
IT
IS
NOT
A
frickING
LAW
Which legislature duly deliberated on and passed a bill that was then signed into law by the executive? NONE, you fricks. Where in any Constitution does any executive have the power to unilaterally force you to wear a piece of apparel on your face? NOWHERE. Courts are going to kick these tyrants in the fricking peepee the first time one of these cases gets to them.
You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair that they made the Jews wear.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 9:01 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:16 am to icegator337
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Examples of reasonable modifications to a face mask policy
That is only southeastada.org's opinion on what is reasonable. That is not case law, or any specific part of the ADA. It will get challenged the moment someone who can't wear a mask is told they can't eat inside the restaurant....which is why no business is going to be stupid enough to refuse someone service inside.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:17 am to Privateer 2007
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As we drag this on the elderly, die of depression, die because they cannot isolate forever and get infected. Etc.
That’s really sweet that they have elderly drag queens now. Hope they stay safe while performing!
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:18 am to Riolobo
It’s so funny to see self-professed liberty loving conservatives act like billy badasses over some cloth face masks when the lay down and take every other infringement that comes their way.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:22 am to EveryoneGetsATrophy
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If wearing a mask in public places keeps restaurants and other establishments open
How can someone usefully wear a mask in a restaurant? If JP enforces this, it seems like it will make it more difficult for restaurants to stay open other than going back to curbside.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:23 am to Vidic
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These will be the same people that say the government destroyed small businesses when they might’ve survived if you just wore a simple mask on your fricking face
Acts like the government literally forcing small businesses to close did not destroy them, while simultaneously saying private citizens wearing masks MIGHT have saved them.
fricking idiot.
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