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re: Marshall Fire near Boulder, CO out of control due to high winds, burning urban areas

Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:57 pm to
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:57 pm to
Is there a reason they haven’t gotten snow. Most of the Rockies and west coast just got their biggest December snow pack in 50 years
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11305 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:59 pm to
That’s crazy there’s no snow on the ground.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
19334 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 4:59 pm to
The most important thing they can do in a time like this is get vaccinated.



So I’ve been told.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66696 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 5:00 pm to
That rotation can be seen on tilt 4 at ~5,500ft.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74522 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

but snow isn't as easy to burn as dry grass.




water doesn't burn as well as dry grass
Posted by Amblin
Member since Sep 2011
2881 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 5:03 pm to
Where's that contra flow...
Posted by WillieD
Lafayette/BR
Member since Apr 2014
2610 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 5:05 pm to
I clicked that link and it said they were under a winter storm warning
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102428 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66696 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

I clicked that link and it said they were under a winter storm warning


The "Winter" part of that storm comes later.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
70359 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

Is there a reason they haven’t gotten snow.
Human-induced “Climate Change.”

Courtesy of The Weather Channel.

Stay tuned for your local on the 8s.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 5:14 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66696 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 5:19 pm to
That's just frightening video going into nighttime.

@AaronRigsbyOSC
quote:

#MarshallFire tearing through Superior, CO #COwx LINK
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
47224 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

Really unusual to be happening on the plains instead of the mountains.

About four years ago I accidentally ignited a small area in a field in Utah. There was nothing but short grass (6”) within 200 feet. I could not put it out, and it started spreading rapidly. I had my wife call the fire department and they got it out quickly.

Out there it is so dry that you don’t need any wood. The dead matted grass is like gasoline.
Posted by Goat Rider
Boulder, CO
Member since Feb 2018
947 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 5:38 pm to
I live in Boulder and hoping that they can contain the fire, but not looking good at all especially for those in Superior, Louisville and Broomfield. Thankfully, we're supposed to get snow tomorrow which should help. So sad that so many people are going to lose their homes.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 5:52 pm to
quote:


Is there a reason they haven’t gotten snow. Most of the Rockies and west coast just got their biggest December snow pack in 50 years


All the moisture has been squeezed out over the mountains. They've been getting dry winds as lows eject. This will be the first time they get a decent snow.

quote:

water doesn't burn as well as dry grass


It's these insights that people rely on me for.
Posted by Frac the world
The Centennial State
Member since Oct 2014
19358 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:07 pm to
I live about 35 miles north, but work right in the heart of this fire. I didn’t go in today, but being on the third floor facing the flatirons my cubicle would’ve been a front row seat.

We haven’t had moisture in months, the grass out on the Flats is incredibly dry and the winds have been incredible.

90-100mph winds out on the flats have been common the past couple of weeks.

We’re expecting snow tomorrow-Sat so that will help. But the fires are into the neighborhoods now and many people are losing their homes. Many areas I go out to for lunch are gone already. These winds make it so hard for fire crews to contain it.
Posted by Zapps4Life
Houston
Member since May 2016
430 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:08 pm to
Here you go about Chinook winds...
theweatherprediction.com

Wikipedia
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5729 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

It's these insights that people rely on me for.




There’s no steady wind and barely any gust in Denver.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66696 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

About four years ago I accidentally ignited a small area in a field in Utah. There was nothing but short grass (6”) within 200 feet. I could not put it out, and it started spreading rapidly. I had my wife call the fire department and they got it out quickly.

Out there it is so dry that you don’t need any wood. The dead matted grass is like gasoline.

A big part of the problem with wildfires out West that isn't mentioned often is the types of grass out there now.

Alot of non-native grass species have been brought into the country over the years and allowed to get a foothold in large areas. They grow faster and thicker than native grasses, and they can handle drought a little better. The biggest issue with those grasses, though, is how they die. Most native grasses won't die and become dead standing vegetation. They wilt when they die and decompose quicker than the non-native species. When certain imported grasses die, they turn brown and become a widespread fuel source for wildfires.

Invasive Plants and Fire 
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 6:25 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66696 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:28 pm to
@ColoradoSun
quote:

#MarshallFire update as of 5:30 p.m.:

— As many as 600 homes lost
— Fire was about 1,600 acres
— Louisville and Superior still evacuated
— Nearly 28,000 without power
— State of emergency declared
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 6:33 pm
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
6742 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Here you go about Chinook winds...


There were times when I lived in Boulder and Westminster when I laid in bed expecting the roof to lift off because the winds were making so much noise.
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