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re: Married Men Outearn Single Men (and Women as a Whole)

Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:35 am to
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:35 am to
I've always felt when hiring that when choosing between two relatively equal candidates, I go with the married applicant. The reason for me is that they have more to lose, and are working for more than themselves. Not always, but more times than not, you get a person that works harder to get ahead and prove themselves because they have so much on the line back home and people counting on them to be their best. JMHO
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83165 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:39 am to
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This is surprising since married women may be more likely to have children than single women,” he noted


Not at all surprising to me from my own experience. Every company I’ve ever worked for (besides my current) dramatically overpaid their 45+ aged women.

Younger single people tend to settle for less/not know what they could potentially earn from their employers. Married people, especially people with families, often have a higher expectation of pay. Especially older folks who have been working for a long time and gradually moving up in pay.

There’s also a lot of value still placed on “years of experience”. As it should be, but man that can bite companies in the arse too. Time spent employed somewhere doesn’t equate being a great worker. I’ve worked with quite a few older women who spent 30 years in the industry yet constantly needed younger employees’ help to even halfway perform their jobs. At my last job, my coworker was making double my salary but did maybe 20% of the work I did and struggled sending an email. All the employer saw when they hired her was the years of prior employment.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 7:49 am
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7201 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 7:43 am to
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In b4 OT ballers making 90k while still in the womb.


Yeah, that graph is depressing...I make more than all of the categories and a feel poor/broke most of the time. Good thing is I'm only 31, plenty of time to move higher.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
11017 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:09 am to
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The reason for me is that they have more to lose, and are working for more than themselves.


this is pretty accurate imo.

i’ve had to work ridiculous hitches (56 and 7) out of state. 12-14 hour days, 7 days a week, for nearly 2 months.

if i was single with no kids, i probably don’t make it past the first hitch before telling them to just shove it and find something else, even at a much lower income.

but i’m married and have 2 teenaged kids, so i did what i had to do.

and according to that chart, apparently i’m pretty average and have followed that curve pretty damn close.
i might be a hair above it right now, but not enough to reallly brag about it.
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:25 am to
Makes sense. Would be more useful to know when the men got married to correlate it to when they started making more money. Men get more aggressive for pay when they have families to take care of.

Im not sure I understand why the single men, and married men have such a gap in the early 20s range. That would be interesting to know more about
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
11017 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:29 am to
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Im not sure I understand why the single men, and married men have such a gap in the early 20s range. That would be interesting to know more about


a lot of single men are in college and only working part time in early 20s.

guys who got married at 18-20 years old are working full time already.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112526 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:39 am to
Lol at Pecker. Poor bastard jealous of us rich married men with kids
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:48 am to
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Before my wife and I got married:

Field Engineer
Mid-Six figures and per firm
6 weeks on 6 days off


$500K as a field engineer
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:49 am to
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Lol at Pecker. Poor bastard jealous of us rich married men with kids

You realize he is married without any kids, right?
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3578 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:57 am to
Married men might out earn single men but they have less money.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33054 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 8:58 am to
Not necessarily true.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:02 am to
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Married men might out earn single men but they have less money.


This is what a lot of single men want to believe is the standard, it fits their narrative.
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1720 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 9:10 am to
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
66810 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 11:09 am to
Married men get paid more because they're married. They have the financial burdens that not only demand higher pay to operate, but hinder them from leaving the job, and makes them more afraid of failure.

It's a magnificent control mechanism.
Posted by CoachDon
Louisville
Member since Sep 2014
12409 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:00 pm to
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Married men get paid more because they're married


To add to my earlier post regarding married applicants, the fact that they are married conveys a higher sense of stability as well. This becomes more important with family owned companies.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
17200 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:43 pm to
Having been on a lot of job interviews this past year. It looks better to an employer if your married because you are settled down/ have financial obligations and will less likely company jump.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:04 pm to
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Mid-Six figures and per firm


You know this means 400k-600k, not 140-160k, right?
Posted by liz18lsu
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:32 pm to
DINK's for the win
Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 12/28/18 at 2:35 pm to
Because we are the backbone of Merica
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 12/28/18 at 3:49 pm to
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always felt when hiring that when choosing between two relatively equal candidates, I go with the married applicant. The reason for me is that they have more to lose, and are working for more than themselves. Not always, but more times than not, you get a person that works harder to get ahead and prove themselves because they have so much on the line back home and people counting on them to be their best. JMHO





I cant change your opinion, but it does perpetuate a double standard.

Married men are more stable because of marriage.

Women who are unmarried are just as responsible because "they don't need no man".

It's a stereotype and can ultimately backfire because there are many single men who are good employees and have many skills to offer a company.

Also, marital maturity is relative to the person. Somebody who got married at 19 and ultimately divorced at 22 on the job may not be as a 25 year old who may be unmarried. Doesn't help that more millennials and Gen Z people prolong marriage currently.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 4:03 pm
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