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re: Married Men Outearn Single Men (and Women as a Whole)
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:16 pm to CoachMoorGut
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:16 pm to CoachMoorGut
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Therefore when a promotion comes up at work a lot of single guys will say "I don't really want to work that much" where a married guy will say "If I do that then Timmy's Nintendo doesn't hit NY budget that much".
You also have to consider that most single men are likely to be younger and younger men are likely to make a lot less than older people who are generally married.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:19 pm to tiggerthetooth
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You also have to consider that most single men are likely to be younger and younger men are likely to make a lot less than older people who are generally married
Did you even look at the graph in the OP? Married men out earn single men at literally all ages. The largest gap, at least visually to me, at age 45 is about 40-45K extra for being a married man.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:20 pm to Dire Wolf
Or married men are naturally more motivated people.
This post was edited on 12/28/18 at 5:43 am
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:38 pm to CoachMoorGut
Right, that’s what I’m saying, though. According to the chart, at all ages they out-earn single men, by a huge margin. I just can’t make those numbers work in my head when you look at the true average. Is it just weighted that heavily when only looking at men with a diploma? Or is the sample size or occupational weighting not shown? It just doesn’t jive with me.
ETA: per the labor burueau, the average salary of a man aged 45-54 (whether married or unmarried) is 57K. According to the chart, the AVERAGE salary of a married man of the same age nears 90K. That just doesn’t make any fricking sense when they also say the unmarried average hovers near 50K
ETA: per the labor burueau, the average salary of a man aged 45-54 (whether married or unmarried) is 57K. According to the chart, the AVERAGE salary of a married man of the same age nears 90K. That just doesn’t make any fricking sense when they also say the unmarried average hovers near 50K
This post was edited on 12/27/18 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:41 pm to Dire Wolf
They’re going to need a bigger chart for me. It’s funny but I’d be completely content making 75k a year if I didn’t have to support a bunch of people.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:42 pm to Dire Wolf
Easy to earn when you don't want to go home lol.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:43 pm to CoachMoorGut
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Did you even look at the graph in the OP? Married men out earn single men at literally all ages.
23 year old bartender pulls in significantly more than a 23 year old guy who just started med school, law school, any grad school.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:10 pm to Scruffy
Before my wife and I got married:
Field Engineer
Mid-Six figures and per firm
6 weeks on 6 days off
After my wife and I got married:
Safety Engineer
Barely at six figures no per diem
M-F
Same company, 50k pay cut to be home. I’m not upset at all though.
Field Engineer
Mid-Six figures and per firm
6 weeks on 6 days off
After my wife and I got married:
Safety Engineer
Barely at six figures no per diem
M-F
Same company, 50k pay cut to be home. I’m not upset at all though.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:13 pm to TheDeathValley
Married guys work longer hours because they dread going home. Unfair advantage over single guys who have a life and hobbies and shite.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:14 pm to Adam4848
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In b4 OT ballers making 90k while still in the womb.
Is this suppose to be a lot?
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:41 pm to Dire Wolf
Women on that gravy train. Taking advantage of men!!!!! Maybe we need to say we are triggered by this info? 
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:42 pm to Dire Wolf
You can break the chart down in 3 regions. The under 22 married men are making more then the unmarried types, because they fricked up and got their high school girlfriends pregnant and are living a life of wage labor and overtime while the unmarried portion are still in school/training/military and haven’t considered settling down yet.
From 22-26 the unmarried and married curve comes closer together, as the unmarried types graduate from college, get out of the military, etc.., and join the entry level workforce (but at less experience than the married 20 year olds that have been at this for a few years).
Age 26+ women start to realize that they do in fact like money over whatever BS they told themselves before, and the deadbeats they were attracted to from his point prior aren’t the ones to bring it, so then they start to pair off with the high earners.
But, from this point forward it’s not the same men who were “high earners” at 20 years old that are pulling up the average, it’s newly wed guys who were single and working on their own life.
From 22-26 the unmarried and married curve comes closer together, as the unmarried types graduate from college, get out of the military, etc.., and join the entry level workforce (but at less experience than the married 20 year olds that have been at this for a few years).
Age 26+ women start to realize that they do in fact like money over whatever BS they told themselves before, and the deadbeats they were attracted to from his point prior aren’t the ones to bring it, so then they start to pair off with the high earners.
But, from this point forward it’s not the same men who were “high earners” at 20 years old that are pulling up the average, it’s newly wed guys who were single and working on their own life.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:45 pm to Dire Wolf
I have to earn over 100k just to afford our lifestyle and daycare.
I seriously have considered opening one of money mills
I seriously have considered opening one of money mills
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:55 pm to Mufassa
Could it be that married men are motivated to work hard and advance their career more to make sure their kids and wife are well taken care of?
Posted on 12/28/18 at 12:36 am to Dire Wolf
That awkward feeling when your household is the opposite. 
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:00 am to Dire Wolf
The biggest factor of a married man out earning the other groups is because there is a wife bitching at home, talking about what the Johnsons have that you don't.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:06 am to Dire Wolf
Seems like a moot point, any extra money the married guy earns over his single counter point is just going to be spent by his wife.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:09 am to Dire Wolf
Marriage is an important part of getting ahead. ... A married guy seems more stable. People see the ring, they think 'at least somebody can stand the son of a bitch.' Ladies see the ring, they know immediately that you must have some cash, and your cock must work.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 1:17 am to CoachMoorGut
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Here's the thing bro. 1: Everyone wants enough money to cover their expenses, and fund their hobbies. 2: Very very few people want to work more than they have to. 3: Even if wives are earning well, children are expensive. Therefore when a promotion comes up at work a lot of single guys will say "I don't really want to work that much" where a married guy will say "If I do that then Timmy's Nintendo doesn't hit my budget that much".
Bingo
One of my buddies is in the same profession as me, but works a hell of a lot more than I do. Of course he makes more too.l, but...
He has a wife and three girls to raise. Private school. Big house.
I’m single, work less, and probably able to put more towards retirement while living it up going to LSU games, ski trips, etc.
Posted on 12/28/18 at 3:17 am to Volt
The role of sexual selection by women is likely to be a variable. A man earning a good salary for his age and region will be more desirable to the women he encounters. A lower earning single man will be presented with fewer options for marriage. A woman who earns more than other women will not be generally considered more sexually desirable and will likely not be interested in men earning less than her- lowering her chances of marrying.
If they ran the numbers differently I suspect they would see a large gap in rates of marriage in the top five percent of men versus women- with men being much more likely to be married if they are higher earners... But women seeing a lesser link because their preference for higher earning men becomes a disadvantage when they start earning more than most men.
RE: percent of income saved for retirement I wonder if we might see a difference- given that many married men are financially kicking in for both spouse and children. That might mean single men have some opportunity to save proportionally more- but it doesn't seem obvious whether or not they would be disciplined enough to do that.
If they ran the numbers differently I suspect they would see a large gap in rates of marriage in the top five percent of men versus women- with men being much more likely to be married if they are higher earners... But women seeing a lesser link because their preference for higher earning men becomes a disadvantage when they start earning more than most men.
RE: percent of income saved for retirement I wonder if we might see a difference- given that many married men are financially kicking in for both spouse and children. That might mean single men have some opportunity to save proportionally more- but it doesn't seem obvious whether or not they would be disciplined enough to do that.
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