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re: Map showing % of children enrolled in Private Schools 1-12

Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30847 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:39 pm to
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Doesn't take a genius to figure out that the private schools are 95% white and the Public schools are 70% black. It's an under-the-table form of segregation.



Unfortunately, that is generally true. My two younger kids go/went (one is at LSU now) to a private that has a racial profile that fairly close to the general population in our area. It is also one of the least expensive in the area. In hindsight, I may have chosen otherwise but not because of the racial profile, that is actually one thing I am glad about, but because the academics have drop off since we started there.

If I had had a little better foresight, I may have ended up in Texas just for the schools. Probably would have had them in a Christian school through elementary anyway though.

What area are you in?

Good luck with the search.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98380 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:40 pm to
In no particular order...Laffy, LC, Ellick, Northshore, Ruston, Natchitoches all have decent to very good/excellent public school options. Even Shreveport and Monroe if you live in the right attendance zone. Rural districts are more hit or miss, but most of them don't have private schools to compete with any more, so the kids of doctors and lawyers are going to the same school as the poors, and you have decent parental and community involvement for the most part, which makes up for a lot of ills.

Bottom line, in most parts of the state it's not as bleak as in BR and Nola, and anybody who bitches about that, it's your own fault for living there.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 6:45 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85144 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:41 pm to
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I know why.


I know most of the responses will be sarcastic, but I often wonder if it's a chicken or the egg situation in LA.

In most areas, the parents who give a shite AND have the means send their kids to private schools. It essentially takes all of the middle to upper middle class parents who give a shite with them, leaving behind a less than desirable group of parents and students.

However, in parishes where private schooling is well below the state norms, the publisher schools are actually pretty solid, at least for LA. St. Mary Parish is a good example. Are they good because private schools are pretty vacant, or are private schools vacant because the public school options are pretty solid?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20942 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:42 pm to
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that's awfully optimistic


Jesuit is one of the best Catholic high schools in the state, and they have never turned down any applicant due to finances who was qualified academically.

Its easy to sterotype otherwise however, so carry on.
Posted by Man4others
Member since Aug 2017
2063 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:43 pm to
Perhaps you should move and put your kids in some crappy school with the intent on fixing the school instead of blaming other people
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:44 pm to
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Are they good because private schools are pretty vacant, or are private schools vacant because the public school options are pretty solid?


I think it’s the latter.

Unless parents just really want their kids to have a religious education, most would opt for public schools of the schools are as good or better than private options.

That’s why we chose to live where we do, excellent public schools. No reason to pay for private education when our public option is so good.
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
65876 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:46 pm to
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Why have we not adopted the ISD model? We have too many private schools in this state and it's taking good students out of the public schools system.


Because in Louisiana it’s apparently racist to have neighborhood schools so they all have to be shite in the name of equality
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30847 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:48 pm to
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In no particular order...Laffy,


Laffy's schools aren't what they used to be but I think they are on the upswing and still better than a lot of Louisiana areas. But if you're looking in the Lafayette area, I would suggest Erath. That goofy little Cajun hick town has some of the best public schools in the area. I live in Lafayette, always have but those schools have move up like a rocket in the last 10-20 years.
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
3705 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:50 pm to
There are great schools. If your kids make it into the gifted program in EBR you are golden. In N.O., the best public school is Ben Franklin but you must apply and it has a very low acceptance rate. If your worried about the kid being a dummy, just move into zachery, brusley, or central school zoning zones.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98380 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:51 pm to
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Jesuit is one of the best Catholic high schools in the state, and they have never turned down any applicant due to finances who was qualified academically.


Or ran a good time in the 40.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:51 pm to
There's nothing wrong with Louisiana public schools that Minnesota demographics wouldn't fix.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85144 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:51 pm to
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Unless parents just really want their kids to have a religious education, most would opt for public schools of the schools are as good or better than private options.

That’s why we chose to live where we do, excellent public schools. No reason to pay for private education when our public option is so good.


Which begs the question, if the private schools were dropped tomorrow, wouldn't the public school options pick up from the influx of "above average" students and, more importantly, involved parents?

To put it another way, once a public school is considered a poor option, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy in LA. The student outflows pretty much kill it for good.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 6:55 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30847 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

quote:

Why have we not adopted the ISD model? We have too many private schools in this state and it's taking good students out of the public schools system.



Because in Louisiana it’s apparently racist to have neighborhood schools so they all have to be shite in the name of equality





I think state laws are prohibitive ISDs, I could be wrong though. Additionally, many parishes have been working under federal supervision due to desegregation lawsuits until very recently (I think Lafayette was into this decade) which then required approval from the presiding judge to do anything. ISDs would have probably been out of the question as such.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98380 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:55 pm to
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Which begs the question, if the private schools were dropped tomorrow, wouldn't the public school options pick up from the influx of "above average" students and, more importantly, involved parents? To put it another way, one a public school is considered a poor option, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy in LA. The student outflows pretty much kill it for good.


The reason my parish always had a pretty good public system was the local segregation academy never took hold, and trashier people went there for the few years it was open. That's changed recently as our town has lost its middle class, like a lot of other places. But for a long time, we were punching well above our weight with regard to academic achievement.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48837 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:55 pm to
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Bottom line, in most parts of the state it's not as bleak as in BR and Nola, and anybody who bitches about that, it's your own fault for living there.

Before the flood the top 4 school districts in the state were in the BR suburbs. Post flood it's 3 of the top 4 but many LP students were displaced for over a year.

advocate
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26667 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:56 pm to
Dude you love to hate Louisiana. Just move already. You’ll be happier. Trust me.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20942 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:56 pm to
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Or ran a good time in the 40.


I dont believe they give out athletic scholarships. John Curtis on the other hand...
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:58 pm to
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Yes you proposed a solution to remove OTHER PEOPLE’S choice in education to essentially bus them into public schools. Yet admit you won’t do that with your own kids.

That is SJW 101




Peep them UpV/DownVs in the OP, playa. And this is a mostly conservative board. You're losing. It's not an attack on your small mind.. It's common sense. Try to look at it from a big picture perspective.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:59 pm to
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Which begs the question, if the private schools were dropped tomorrow, wouldn't the public school options pick up from the influx of "above average" students and, more importantly, involved parents?


Ideally, yes. But we don’t live in an ideal world.

The real answer is so much more complicated and depends a lot on the overall socioeconomic of the given region/parish and on demographics, which is a part of the problem we aren’t allowed to discuss honestly without being called racist.

I do think economics are just as if not more important than other demographics as I mentioned previously.
This post was edited on 4/1/18 at 7:01 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58285 posts
Posted on 4/1/18 at 6:59 pm to
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Jesuit is one of the best Catholic high schools in the state


When you factor in the value to the equation, they are one of the best in the country. Probably up to a 27 ACT average now with a ton of National Merit honor graduates.


This is coming from someone who doesn't care much for the Jesuit folks, but calls many friends.
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