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re: Many Ivy League freshmen have never read a book

Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:44 am to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73332 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:44 am to
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In school reading entire books can put you at a major risk of falling behind. You can spend weeks reading a book of literature and if you interpret the writings wrong on your book report you make a worse grade than someone who didn't read the book and used cliff notes. Also, you may read entire chapters and miss what the pop quiz might ask because you don't remember it. However, all of the important material would be in the cliff notes anyway.

I don't know about you, but when I was in school and we were reading books, a couple chapters were assigned, then they would discussed in class. A couple more chapters assigned, then reviewed in class. If you couldn't discern what the teacher felt you should have absorbed and adequately prepare for a quiz/test, you weren't reading the material and/or paying attention in class. To say "reading entire books can put you at a major risk of falling behind" is hilarious and wrong.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79424 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:48 am to
I a trying to think how many books I read per year in HS. it was definitely 5-6. Probably 3 or maybe more a semester.

I was in honors english but still.

I took fiction in college as an elective course and it was great because you just read.

I remember the midterm it was on Madam Bovary, Robinson Crusoe and Diary of an Ex Colored Man. And you basically had to read a segment and say what book it was from. People were losing their mind aabout how hard it was and I got a 100%. it was fricking easy if you even read part of them book.

1 was in 1st person POV.
1 was 3rd.
1 was written 300 years ago.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2415 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:52 am to
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Frankenstein and Catcher were so gay


you are gay

Anyway, Frankenstein is bad arse, you should probably reread it.
Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2415 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:55 am to
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Department of Education has a budget of over $70 billion dollars.


This would have actually been better spent in the Ukraine. It would have done less damage.
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2096 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:56 am to
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Take an adderall and fight the urge to masturbate.


This is funny but seriously what is the correlation?
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40330 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 11:59 am to
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you are gay Anyway, Frankenstein is bad arse, you should probably reread it.


I barely make time to read stuff I enjoy

My middle school was super baptist and we read garbage. For summer reading I banged out all the Harry Potter books, only to find out they weren’t allowed because the devil.

I am dyslexic so anything reading or writing was chore in school. Still is but it’s not like I am lawyer so I get by


Posted by TigerSprings
Southeast LA
Member since Jan 2019
2415 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:12 pm to
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Dire Wolf


If you have a 30min plus ride to work, you can listen to the Librivox app and listen to the Classics.

Moby Dick, Gulliver's Travels, anything by Jules Verne, Dracula, these are amazing well written books and very interesting.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10269 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:13 pm to
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a vacuum, I agree with you. I dropped in that bit in response to the first line of the OP:quote:They're not sending their best…


I dropped that in there because, frankly, I don't think the caliber of students in colleges (especially “good colleges”) is as high as it used to be. And there are better students… home schooled, privately schooled, etc… that could go to Ivies but would never get admitted, for various reasons. In sum, the Ivies are not the place for the best anymore.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23223 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:15 pm to
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tiktok and snapchat have screwed up their attention span


Prescriptions are probably a factor.

Got to take your pills so you can focus enough to remember to take your pills!
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2543 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:20 pm to
Plenty of smart kids read books. My kid read a 1000-page book this summer just for fun.

The problem is that “elite” colleges don’t care about these kids anymore as much as they care about pumping up their DEI admits.
Posted by Old Character
Member since Jan 2018
1573 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 12:21 pm to
My 7th grader is required a ridiculous amt of reading. He hates it, but it will benefit him in the long run.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8016 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:33 pm to
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Kids should have to read multiple books per year, every year of school.


I agree. Unfortunately both parents are working to pay for a house they had to overpay for, student loans, and eggs are five damn dollars a dozen.
Posted by Carolhdg
St George, LA
Member since Nov 2022
312 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:40 pm to
That’s hard for me to understand. When I was ten, my mother went to the library, borrowed some of the classics that she had loved as a girl, and put them on back of my bed. She told me that I should read them. I ignored them for about a week, then one day when I was bored, I picked one up. That was the beginning of my love of reading. I don’t know how many books I have read, but it’s probably in the thousands now.
I made sure to do the same thing for my children, and they all love to read. Schools can assign books for kids to read, but it won’t teach them to love it, most of the time, because it seems more like a chore. When a parent encourages a child to read about a subject that interests him, he is far more likely to learn to like reading. And yes, I gave my son differently things to read than I gave my daughters.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37983 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 1:45 pm to
yea i love to read, things like tom clancy, but going to college just to have a book assigned to read and give a report on is dumb AF. Why the hell are you in college to be in a damn book club.

that is one thing i hated about college.....being in engineering all the mandatory classes in liberal arts all had professors who thought their stupid arse class was the most important thing in the world. all were just about fricking useless
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4921 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 2:54 pm to
How this legitimately possible
Posted by MrFahrenheitDontLie
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
274 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 5:36 pm to
You are wrong. I've read a lot of books. Paying attention in class taking notes and reading in your free time are 3 completely separate things. The teacher already can tell who is paying attention in class and taking notes anyway.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92217 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 5:37 pm to
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being in engineering all the mandatory classes in liberal arts all


I'm a CivE by degree, that wasn't part of the curriculum when I was at LSU
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23913 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 5:43 pm to
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Your American education system at work folks.


You can blame the education system, and they do deserve blame, but learning begins in the home. The parents need to make reading a priority, it’s their responsibility.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
92217 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 5:46 pm to
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learning begins in the home. The parents need to make reading a priority,


this, my mom conned me into getting a library card circa first grade, made it seem like I was a big shot to be credentialed at such a tender young age, the library had a "club" that kept track of how many books you read and I couldn't get enough reading, still love to read today
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
5047 posts
Posted on 10/2/24 at 5:49 pm to
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While taking a poop, it’s a good time to read about how his throbbing members plunged deep into her pulsating birthing canal.
Nobody is ever going to believe that would happen.
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