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Man receives sex act while blacked out, gets accused of sexual assault
Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:55 am
Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:55 am
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An Amherst College student blacked out, accompanied a fellow student back to her dorm room after drinking in February 2012. While he was blacked out, she performed oral sex on him.
Nearly two years later, she would accuse him of sexual assault. And under Amherst's guilty-until-proven-innocent (and even then, as we'll see, still guilty) hearing standards, the accused student was expelled.
The accused student — using the pseudonym John Doe — is suing the university for denying him due process. His lawyer had discovered text messages that prove the accused student did not initiate the encounter and in no way sexually assaulted the accuser. Despite this evidence, the university refused to reopen Doe's case.
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:56 am to Green Chili Tiger
Yeah, this is a clusterfrick of "social justice".... 

Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:57 am to Green Chili Tiger
I hope he gets paid
Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:57 am to Green Chili Tiger
Women fricking suck
Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:58 am to Topwater Trout
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Women fricking suck
ISWYDT
Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:58 am to Topwater Trout
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Women fricking suck
Literally in this case
Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:58 am to Topwater Trout
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Women fricking suck
If they do, you could be charged with assault.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:59 am to Green Chili Tiger
If being involved in consensual sexual acts while both parties are blackout drunk is a crime, they need to lock up 75% of American college students, including myself.
How ridiculous is this?
How ridiculous is this?
Posted on 6/11/15 at 10:59 am to Green Chili Tiger
This shite is getting beyond absurd. I honestly pity young guys nowadays. It's going to get to the point where it's like that old Chappelle Show skit where you've got to have her sign a contract before doing anything.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:00 am to Green Chili Tiger
Good riddance. He was such a powerful rapist that he was able to rape her while he was unconscious.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:00 am to Green Chili Tiger
According to the new rape standards in this country. Every poster here is a rapist.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:00 am to Green Chili Tiger
I had this happen to me as a freshman. Thankfully the girl didn't get pregnant, I didn't get an STD, and she didn't claim I raped her.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:01 am to TheCaterpillar
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If being involved in consensual sexual acts while both parties are blackout drunk is a crime, they need to lock up 75% of American college students, including myself.
Yeah I've never understood the logic behind that line of thinking. How is a guy who's cross-eyed drunk still responsible for his action while a girl who's just as drunk as him somehow is no longer responsible for her actions? I though the sexes were supposed to be "equal" now?
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:02 am to Green Chili Tiger
Women who falsely accuses someone of sexual assault are just as bad as sex offenders and should be punished in the same way IMO.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:02 am to Green Chili Tiger
shite like this is so fricking scary. Literally anyone (especially female) can ruin your life simply by getting pissed off and accusing you of something. It's insane.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:03 am to Green Chili Tiger
Knew of a guy at LSU, haven't talked to him in years, he may post here..
Anyway he had this total stalker. This chick was in love with him. He passed out one time and woke up to her riding him trying to get his flaccid self inside of her. A few months later after numerous issues, she gets "saved" ( a term for becoming overnight a hardcore baptist). She decides to tell police that he 'raped' her, when she really raped him. There were even witnesses and everything.
The kid left school because of being in the Revelle. It was sad. He was a good dude, from Avoyelles or one of those country parishes. It was sad.
Women have so much power when they accuse people, you almost need to have them sign a waver for sex.
Anyway he had this total stalker. This chick was in love with him. He passed out one time and woke up to her riding him trying to get his flaccid self inside of her. A few months later after numerous issues, she gets "saved" ( a term for becoming overnight a hardcore baptist). She decides to tell police that he 'raped' her, when she really raped him. There were even witnesses and everything.
The kid left school because of being in the Revelle. It was sad. He was a good dude, from Avoyelles or one of those country parishes. It was sad.
Women have so much power when they accuse people, you almost need to have them sign a waver for sex.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 11:04 am
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:04 am to colorchangintiger
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I had this happen to me as a freshman. Thankfully the girl didn't get pregnant, I didn't get an STD, and she didn't claim I raped her.
I had consensual sex with a chick once in college who made it a point to tell me how she had to take the morning after pill every time we saw each other. I'm so grateful that dumb bitch never got the dumb idea to accuse me of anything.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:07 am to Melvin
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Women who falsely accuses someone of sexual assault are just as bad as sex offenders and should be punished in the same way IMO.
I agree 100%
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:12 am to Napoleon
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Women have so much power when they accuse people, you almost need to have them sign a waver for sex.
Celebrities really do that these days.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 11:14 am to whoisnickdoobs
Holy hell... Reading how they handle cases like this is freaking scary. This takes the term "kangaroo court" to a whole other level....
Here's how the school defines sexual assault...
and here's the "judicial" process...
That's freaking terrifying.
Here's how the school defines sexual assault...
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K.C. Johnson, co-author of the book about the Duke lacrosse rape hoax, obtained Doe's lawsuit as well as transcripts from the hearing that found him guilty. Johnson first describes Amherst's Kafkaesque sexual assault rules, which stated goal is to "empower victims" during hearings rather than determine the truth.
Johnson notes that the school has adopted the "yes means yes" definition of consent — meaning someone has to ask before performing any sexual act on another person and receive an affirmative response. But the standard provides no way for accused students to prove they obtained such consent. (For that matter, given that the sexual act was performed on the accused student, was there any evidence he provided affirmative consent?)
The school also requires drunk students engaging in sexual activity to "be aware of the other person's level of intoxication" and warns students that "an individual may experience a blackout state in which he/she/they appear to be giving consent, but do not actually have conscious awareness or the ability to consent." Johnson asks how an accused student is supposed to have been aware of another's intoxication or known they were in a "black out state," as Amherst doesn't provide an explanation.
and here's the "judicial" process...
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The entire adjudication process at Amherst, revised after another student claimed the school mistreated her sexual assault accusation, was designed to find guilt, Johnson wrote. An accused student may hire an attorney, but that attorney cannot say anything during the hearing. An accused student may receive a campus "adviser" who "is not an advocate for the student." Meanwhile, the accuser's adviser is absolutely their advocate.
For Doe, his "adviser" was an administrator who lacked tenure and was trained in "social justice education." Doe was not allowed to directly cross-examine his accuser and could only write down questions for the panel to ask her, leaving no room for follow-ups. The hearing panel, meanwhile, was made up of "student life officials" and another administrators trained in "social justice education" — none of whom had tenure.
The investigator of the sexual assault claim lacked the subpoena power to actually investigate. Had the investigator been able to properly investigate, they would have uncovered the text messages that proved there was no assault.
That's freaking terrifying.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 11:22 am
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