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re: Man dies in Destin after surgeon removes liver instead of spleen

Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:51 am to
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:51 am to
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He received his medical degree from Midwestern in Downers Grove


I lived in Chicago for twenty years and never heard of this place.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:52 am to
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I lived in Chicago for twenty years and never heard of this place.


I lived right next to Downer's Grove and never heard of it either
Posted by Requiem For A Dawg
Guff of Mex
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:08 am to
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Osteopathic schools are way more lax on admissions, that can lead to a doctor removing a liver thinking it’s a spleen.


I have a few friends from college who are doctors. The only ones who went to a DO med school went because they were first rejected by an MD med school.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:11 am to
The Doc's hot girlfriend wanted him to supply a liver for her Grandma by any means necessary.

Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:20 pm to
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
2267 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:34 pm to
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The Doc's hot girlfriend wanted him to supply a liver for her Grandma by any means necessary.


Then I doubt the pathologist slicing it up was a good idea….
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
2267 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:35 pm to
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3 years of general surgery residency


General surgery is 5 years.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43177 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:40 pm to
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I know frickall about surgery, but was there not someone else there who could have spoken up when they started cutting on the wrong side of the body?



I've only had one major surgery. It was more than disconcerting that immediately before the procedure some assistant comes in the room, asks me which side we are operating on, and when I tell them, she takes a sharpie and marks that side of my body.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:41 pm to
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she takes a sharpie and marks that side of my body.


pretty standard, they usually even make you verbalize it
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
103937 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:01 pm to
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General surgery is 5 years.
Even better

All potential negative light from a learning environment should go on the residency program here, not the med school

Here is the link for the program

LINK

This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:09 pm to
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she takes a sharpie and marks that side of my body.

This is pretty much SOP
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42758 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:27 pm to
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Man dies in Destin


That sucks.

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surgeon removes liver instead of spleen


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This thread de-livers.


Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42758 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:28 pm to
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proceeded with labeling the removed liver specimen as a “spleen.


I would have loved to have been in the room when the pathologist put that under the microscope.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
2267 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:37 pm to
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I would have loved to have been in the room when the pathologist put that under the microscope.



Probably something like "this looks a lot like a portal triad" and "i see evidence of hepatic steatosis".

But IDK, im not a pathologist.
Posted by caro81
Member since Jul 2017
5578 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:43 pm to
i know most of you have never done surgery.

i assure you, if you confuse a spleen and a liver during surgery, you are a fricking moron. Not only are they on different sides of the body, they look completely different and each looks nothing like any other organ in the body.

this "surgeon" should go to jail. I've met a lot of MDs that im surprised made it to adulthood. this doesnt shock me at all.
Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
2267 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:47 pm to
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Not only are they on different sides of the body


I mean not necessarily. But yeah in 99% of cases they are on opposite sides with liver on right and spleen on left.

You can get polysplenia, splenosis, situs inversus totalis or partial situs inversus. The distribution of organs in the abdomen can be odd.

Now having said all that, it still doesn’t excuse the surgeon.
Posted by CecilShortsHisPants
One Foty Fo uh uh Magnolia Screet
Member since Oct 2012
3374 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:59 pm to
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How is it possible that not one of the OR nurses / assistants didn't say "Bro, are you sure that's not his liver?" when this happened?


Which is why I’m convinced this is fake. Impossible mistake
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4786 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 3:21 pm to
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You can get polysplenia, splenosis, situs inversus totalis or partial situs inversus. The distribution of organs in the abdomen can be odd.


Sure, but anybody with "life-threatening" abdominal pain is promptly getting a CT upon walking into any hospital which would have hopefully recognized any anatomical variants. I am more curious as to what led the surgeon to decide to go poking around.

Posted by GeauxTigers123
Member since Feb 2007
2267 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 3:39 pm to
I also wonder why he went straight to removing the spleen (or liver)?

Seems like most people I see come in get their splenic artery embolized. Also seems like some surgeons want it to be embolized before they will even operate since it is such a bloody surgery.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 3:40 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 4:17 pm to
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Which is why I’m convinced this is fake. Impossible mistake

It's not fake when you factor in that he's made a mistake like this before. Confusing the adrenal gland for the pancreas.
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