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re: Male fatigue
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:11 pm to SallysHuman
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:11 pm to SallysHuman
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My only purpose is replying in this thread was to gently point out that sometimes women let things blur rather than be "the bitch"... I quoted the places from your OP that look as though you relented a few times.
I agree that women tend to blur boundaries. We’re socialized to be people pleasers and I 100% fall into that trap as well. I was never interested in working for him and I should have shut it down a year ago. But I didn’t want to disappoint him because I’m a people pleaser.
I’ll check out the book.
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Women aren't as firm as they could or should be in situations like these. We worry about hurting feelings or relationships, or looking like a cold bitch, or many times just genuinely wanting to be nice. Men aren't as burdened by those constraints.
Agreed.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:12 pm to 4cubbies
Why do I get the feeling that this is all greatly exaggerated?
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:13 pm to 4cubbies
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October 2024
Then earlier this fall, he called several times to tell me the job was posted
In the actual interview, I was told that no one is allowed to work remotely. He echoed that.
You do realize that things change in a year ? The governor ended remote work. It’s not his decision and has been the state policy since June 30.
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The salary offer was basically what I already make at my current job, two miles from home, so I declined.
I checked public records that night and saw that the last person in the same position he offered me made $35,000 more than what he offered me.
So you didn’t look to see what the salary was set at for a classified job before interviewing?
And unclassified jobs have different responsibilities even with the same title. How do you know the prior employee didn’t have much more experience than you?
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:13 pm to 4cubbies
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And we were friends.
Were you though? It sounds like (for him at least) you were professional contacts that had a friendly history.
Again.. there is a difference in how men and women communicate.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:14 pm to BigBinBR
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How do you know the prior employee didn’t have much more experience than you?
Because I looked her up.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:15 pm to buzwa
The odds are it was actually a job at canes are higher than it being a real professional job. This heaux is bat shite crazy and as self absorbed as they come
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:15 pm to SallysHuman
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Were you though? It sounds like (for him at least) you were professional contacts that had a friendly history.
I know him from school, because we are classmates.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:16 pm to 4cubbies
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Male fatigue
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4cubbies
Without reading any of this post and solely going off of your previous posting, I can 110% guarantee that you are the problem.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:16 pm to 4cubbies
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But I didn’t want to disappoint him because I’m a people pleaser.
The book will help with this. It'll also help you to raise your younguns with firm internal instincts and boundaries.
I just wouldn't make this a "man" issue, honestly... They do it to each other too- push til they hit a firm wall. It isn't malicious... it's just different.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:17 pm to 4cubbies
Holy shite this story could have been 6 sentences and conveyed the exact same tone and message you wanted.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:18 pm to 4cubbies
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I know him from school, because we are classmates.
For women, that is friendship... for men, it probably isn't the same- it's networking.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:20 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Did you look up the yearly budget for the department as well. The fiscal year starts July 1. Maybe their budget was lowered. Guess where an easy budget cuts comes from? Unfilled positions. It also gives them less discretionary spending on unclassified positions.
Because I looked her up.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:21 pm to 4cubbies
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I don't think he would have called a man 10 times about this job in one week.
Bull shite.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:22 pm to 4cubbies
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I set a clear boundary and he won't leave me alone.
Did you? You said you responded that “Things were hectic and that you’d reconnect after Thanksgiving.”
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:36 pm to 4cubbies
You frame this in a way that would lead me to believe that you think he had ulterior motives. However your lack of boundaries & business(negotiating) acumen are likely the reason he never fully got the picture.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:36 pm to 4cubbies
I get why you’d be mad. You’re in an all male forum on TD OT pretty much, so you’re going to get downvoted regardless, but don’t take it personal. Just ask him for the amount you saw. It’s that simple, and what I’d do.
My response:
You have no idea how much easier you have dating. Men like 60% of dating app profiles. Women like 3% of male profiles. I saw a dating app experiment: they created 2 dating app profiles. One was a male model. The other was a blank white screen with sex filled out as female. After 24 hours of creation, the female white screen profile had over 14x as many likes as the male model. You don’t have to do any of the heavy lifting by taking rejection. Most women have never been rejected romantically. Most men have been rejected 200x plus. You don’t have to pay for anything. You get a $7k ring while he gets a $150 ring.
I currently have 35 matches on my dating app Hinge profile. Most are weeks old matches. I want you to guess how many of the 35, I sent the last message to, and they ghosted me verse they sent me the last message and I ghosted them. 34 ghosted me. I ghosted 1. And I’m 6’2”, early 30s, think I’m handsome, fit, my total comp starts with a 2, educated…. And I have 34 of 35 matches ghost me & won’t text back to anything I say… despite they liked my profile originally. I can only imagine how bad it is for an average man. They may get 1 match a month to which zero shot she’ll ever text him back.
I have yet to ever hear a female admit how much exponentially easier they have dating than men. Never heard them. Those who are insanely privileged are usually oblivious to it, until they have to experience the other side.
Ultimately what I’m saying is that you have no idea how much more difficult it is to be a man than a woman. There is a reason male to female trans surgeries 5x the quantity of female to male trans surgeries. For every 1 female to male trans surgery, there are 5 male to female trans surgeries. Why? Because life is easier as a female. Even if they know they’ll never truly be female.
My response:
You have no idea how much easier you have dating. Men like 60% of dating app profiles. Women like 3% of male profiles. I saw a dating app experiment: they created 2 dating app profiles. One was a male model. The other was a blank white screen with sex filled out as female. After 24 hours of creation, the female white screen profile had over 14x as many likes as the male model. You don’t have to do any of the heavy lifting by taking rejection. Most women have never been rejected romantically. Most men have been rejected 200x plus. You don’t have to pay for anything. You get a $7k ring while he gets a $150 ring.
I currently have 35 matches on my dating app Hinge profile. Most are weeks old matches. I want you to guess how many of the 35, I sent the last message to, and they ghosted me verse they sent me the last message and I ghosted them. 34 ghosted me. I ghosted 1. And I’m 6’2”, early 30s, think I’m handsome, fit, my total comp starts with a 2, educated…. And I have 34 of 35 matches ghost me & won’t text back to anything I say… despite they liked my profile originally. I can only imagine how bad it is for an average man. They may get 1 match a month to which zero shot she’ll ever text him back.
I have yet to ever hear a female admit how much exponentially easier they have dating than men. Never heard them. Those who are insanely privileged are usually oblivious to it, until they have to experience the other side.
Ultimately what I’m saying is that you have no idea how much more difficult it is to be a man than a woman. There is a reason male to female trans surgeries 5x the quantity of female to male trans surgeries. For every 1 female to male trans surgery, there are 5 male to female trans surgeries. Why? Because life is easier as a female. Even if they know they’ll never truly be female.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:37 pm to 4cubbies
Sounds like a guy who likes to play games/waste time and/or manipulate people. Again- glad you are good with your employment. That’s pretty huge by itself.
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