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re: Madison Brooks Rape Trial- Its been over 2 years
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:16 am to JoylessMurderball
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:16 am to JoylessMurderball
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I didnt say it was?
Its kinda like blaming guns for murder. She willingly put that alcohol into her system, her choice is the issue.
We all know alcohol can be harmful if its overly used.
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:16 am to JDPndahizzy
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That's a powerful statement and may be the very thing that convicts these guys.
the guys have already witnessed her falling off the stool in the bar, helped her up, gave her a ride home because he didn't want to leave a drunk girl alone at the bar.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
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We all know alcohol can be harmful if its overly used.
But Rog, its the mans responsibility to do the right thing and make sure nothing bad happens at all times.
Protect women.
Believe women.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 9:23 am
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:24 am to jizzle6609
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But Rog, its the mans responsibility to do the right thing and make sure nothing bad happens at all times.
I learned at a very early age not to believe women, especially drunk ones so I avoided taking home falling down drunk skanks from bars.
Men set themselves up to be falsely accused when this happens.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I learned at a very early age not to believe women, especially drunk ones so I avoided taking home falling down drunk skanks from bars.
Men set themselves up to be falsely accused when this happens.
My father taught me all of this growing up so its how I lived my life.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:27 am to lsupride87
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Another way to look at it is rapist aren’t usually very keen on asking for consent….
The asking for consent doesn’t really help the prosecution at all
I completely disagree with that idea. By no means do all rapists ask for consent, but I'd be willing to bet that there are plenty of women who have been raped after either refusing or being unable to give consent. Just a hunch.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:27 am to jizzle6609
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My father taught me all of this growing up so its how I lived my life.
I always preferred the game of seduction or persuasion over a sure thing. Just competitive that way.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
Does anyone know if she them before that night?
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:30 am to OweO
Go read the entirety of the link I posted
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:31 am to TigerBaitOohHaHa
quote:I don’t think you know what a fact is.
having sex with someone that has a near fatal blood alcohol level is, in fact, rape.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:32 am to tonydtigr
quote:The testimony as it relates to consent is nothing for the prosecution.
completely disagree with that idea. By no means do all rapists ask for consent, but I'd be willing to bet that there are plenty of women who have been raped after either refusing or being unable to give consent. Just a hunch.
It reads as simply as “defendant 1 says he heard defendant 2 ask for consent multiple times and heard the victim give consent”
The prosecution won’t even mention that in court. If anything, it will be used by the defense
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 9:34 am
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:33 am to lsupride87
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It’s why overcharging Carver was absolutely braindead by the DA
They could have coasted to the finish line with him as a witness against the others. But now they have made him hostile potentially towards the state
I don't know if you remember, but during the process they added a charge of video voyeurism against him for allegedly filming the purported sex acts.
Their 1st degree rape case was weak against him so they made sure they had a shot to convict him of SOMETHING.
When he was their best witness at trial.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:35 am to SlowFlowPro
I can only assume Moore got scared of the race angle here and got weak. Because otherwise the Carver charges make no sense
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:38 am to lsupride87
I think the racial optics play a role, but was the random uncle ever charged with anything? As far as I remember, he's been left out entirely.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:44 am to lsupride87
Moore understands what the jury pool will be. If you recall when this first happened, black Facebook, especially black female Facebook, was all about blaming her for being in that situation. Once the video was released of her being all over them inside the bar and chasing them down through the parking lot, they had all the information they needed to claim she wanted to be there. Add in the speculation (from the defendant lawyers) that there’s video of her calling the white boy a fig for not joining in, and it becomes much more of a gray area for many people. You also have the allegation that she had sex with another male the day before as well. The defense will try to keep the defendant history out of the case. But if they do, then her history may be pulled in as well in order to be consistent. The family may want to avoid that.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 9:51 am to ell_13
Hell yeah the family wants to avoid that. My guess this all gets pleaded out or outright dismissed
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:04 am to saintsfan1977
Both sides make some compelling arguments but I think the most damning piece is her wandering into the middle of a dark street after. Her brain was essentially shut off at that point so there is zero chance she legally consented minutes before. I also just think it’s human trash behavior for multiple guys to have sex with 1 woman. Maybe I have morals, it’s just appalling and disgusting. I don’t think she is without fault, though. Alcohol is a risky business she dabbled in too loosely, bad decision after bad decision.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:05 am to JoylessMurderball
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Brother... how can you not realize that some women can give consent when they are "legally" drunk. The women that have to be asked more than once are not capable of given consent.
If she had gotten in her car that night and drove herself home causing an accident, she'd be prosecuted for deciding to drive drunk and injuring/killing someone. Instead, she willingly had sex but those guys are prosecuted b/c she can't be held responsible for the decisions she made while drunk.
Does anyone want to rationalize that for me?
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:08 am to notbilly
I don’t think she’d have even made it out the parking lot in that state. I see what you’re arguing but there are levels to it.
Posted on 2/26/25 at 11:18 am to spaghettioeauxs
Some of you come off as budding serial killers/sociopaths. Guess that's par for the course with the OT.
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