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re: Machine says co2 is our atmosphere is on the rise. Not breaking news I know.

Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:28 pm to
Posted by Vincenzo Pantangelli
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:28 pm to
It fluctuates. We need Co2 to survive.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
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Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:29 pm to
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Go to about 19:10 to watch Will Happer show his CO2 meter while talking at a conference. He said it went from about 400 ppm outside to 580 ppm inside while speaking for 20 minutes. He also said he took a reading when he was lunch and saw that it was over 1000 ppm.

you realize humans exhale CO2 correct?

it would make sense for it to fluctuate at a large conference.

atmospheric CO2 is the number that matters anyway
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13071 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:31 pm to
I am not sure why everyone is so angrily discounting this. 20 ppm is not a lot but it is 5%. I don't know if that is a problem or not.
It sounds like a bunch of snowflakes are getting upset at hearing information that they don't like.
Posted by coastland909
Member since Nov 2024
412 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:35 pm to
for any fact seekers:

CO2 Coalition: LINK
This post was edited on 11/27/24 at 6:01 pm
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
12927 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

I am not sure why everyone is so angrily discounting this. 20 ppm is not a lot but it is 5%. I don't know if that is a problem or not.
It sounds like a bunch of snowflakes are getting upset at hearing information that they don't like.

people can't stand to face inconvenient facts for some reason. It's weird to me since it isn't like any of us can be blamed for the numbers. the impact of a single human being has no impact at all, the problem is there are 8 billion of us
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7858 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:39 pm to
Shocked that there is so much push back. It is accepted that CO2 levels are coming up due to man made processes.

The debate is whether it affects global climate significantly.
Posted by coastland909
Member since Nov 2024
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Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:40 pm to
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
1117 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

20 ppm is not a lot but it is 5%


Math

You aren't very good at it
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
15278 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:44 pm to
My question is... what level of CO2 do plants need to thrive?? Not to survive, but to thrive??

Serious question, because it seems lower CO2 levels mean plants would starve and die

Not a scientist
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
1117 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:47 pm to
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My question is... what level of CO2 do plants need to thrive?? Not to survive, but to thrive?


Answer is

For optimum growth...1000ppm

Where we are is dangerously low and is why we see famines and other crop failures.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:48 pm to
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It is accepted that CO2 levels are coming up due to man made processes.



Is it?

Do you know how much CO2 (and other things) a single volcano puts in the air?
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
13840 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:51 pm to
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In 2010 the baseline was 400ppm, now it’s 420ppm. That seems like a pretty significant increase to me.


Science is the shite!
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
1117 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:53 pm to
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My question is... what level of CO2 do plants need to thrive?? Not to survive, but to thrive??


Notice how someine is DVing this question. It happened twice now. It is as if someone is taking a shite on someone's religion.
Posted by TheArrogantCorndog
Highland Rd
Member since Sep 2009
15278 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

Answer is

For optimum growth...1000ppm

Where we are is dangerously low and is why we see famines and other crop failures.



Wait, so we are less than half of where this planet needs to be in order to sustain all life on this planet??

Sounds like we need more CO2, so people in developing countries don't starve and die

Again, not a scientist...
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
74903 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:56 pm to
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This is a machine doing a simple measurement. It’s not complicated. Doesn’t require tons of rigorous testing, but you brainiacs can’t take it for what it’s worth.
Well, a single data point isn’t worth anything.

That is how much it is worth.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20826 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:25 pm to
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you realize humans exhale CO2 correct? it would make sense for it to fluctuate at a large conference. atmospheric CO2 is the number that matters anyway


Point……..,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,> you


Oh yah think? Humans exhale CO2?

Next you’ll tell me that plants “eat” CO2, and that cars and other machinery emit CO2.

Then you’ll get crazy and talk about the Oceans absorbing it, and volcanoes and Geysers emitting loads of it!!

No way!

It has to be that atmospheric CO2 doesn’t fluctuate even a measly 20 ppm at one location no matter the time of day or wind direction or season of the year.

Did I get all that right?
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20826 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:29 pm to
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Shocked that there is so much push back. It is accepted that CO2 levels are coming up due to man made processes.


Wrong.

It is accepted that human’s are contributing to the CO2 level increase. What percentage of that increase is due to humans is not actually known, though there are lots of opinions.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102240 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:35 pm to
This thread has gone about like I expected.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
33902 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:40 pm to
quote:

That seems like a pretty significant increase to me.
What's the rate of growth before 2010? What factors caused the raise?

Or are you just blindly looking at numbers and are scared?
Posted by jlntiger
Member since Feb 2011
1489 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:40 pm to
How often do they calibrate said machine and against what standard ?
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