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LSU Study: Mississippi River diversions led to wetland loss, not growth
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:01 am
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:01 am
The diversions were designed to expand Louisiana's coastal land.
I guess "this time" it will be different?
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Two Mississippi River diversions created to reduce salinity levels in Breton Sound and the Barataria Basin, and a crevasse that cut through the river’s east bank levee in Plaquemines Parish, actually caused the loss of more wetlands than they helped build, according to a new study led by LSU researchers.
But experts caution that the study does not necessarily portend similar results for the two massive diversions planned along the lower Mississippi in the next few years — diversions designed with the specific goal of land-building.
Those new, much larger diversions — called the Mid-Barataria and Mid-Breton Sediment Diversion Projects — are slated to cost $2.2 billion and are a major focus of Louisiana's effort to rebuild the state's rapidly eroding marshes.
I guess "this time" it will be different?
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The LSU study found that the likely reasons the Caernarvon and Davis Pond freshwater diversions and the Fort St. Philip crevasse resulted in wetland losses was that the nutrient-rich freshwater they transported weakened the ability of wetland grasses to hold together organic soils during hurricanes and other storms, drowned wetlands by high water levels, and caused physical scouring of some wetlands.
LSU oceanography and coastal sciences professor Eugene Turner, lead author of the peer-reviewed study published in Restoration Ecology, said the study demonstrates a need to include “on-the-ground results” of such diversions in the computer modeling being used to determine if the Mid-Barataria and Mid-Breton projects will be successful. Those diversions, unlike the ones in the study, are designed to build land rather than decrease salinity, and the volume of water and sediment they would introduce into the marshes is far greater.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:04 am to goofball
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I guess "this time" it will be different?
What's your practical solution, bruh?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:06 am to goofball
quote:100% open to hearing alternatives
guess "this time" it will be different?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:07 am to goofball
I wish I got paid to play at the water campus all day.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:07 am to goofball
Uh, the land gain at Atchafalaya and wax lake outlet deltas is significant.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:08 am to The Boat
The splash pad is top notch.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:10 am to goofball
Caernarvon is a fresh water diversion and not a sediment diversion. Yes...the freshwater and lower salinity levels are killing the saltwater marsh.
We need sediment diversions...there’s little to no argument against need for sediment diversions.
We need sediment diversions...there’s little to no argument against need for sediment diversions.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:13 am to The Boat
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I wish I got paid to play at the water campus all day.
Dr Turner’s lab isn’t at the Water Campus.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:14 am to stewie
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Caernarvon is a fresh water diversion and not a sediment diversion. Yes...the freshwater and lower salinity levels are killing the saltwater marsh.
We need sediment diversions...there’s little to no argument against need for sediment diversions.
This exactly, there is a difference between a fresh water diversion and a sediment diversion...OP clearly can't read.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:14 am to goofball
Gene has hated large scale diversions for a long time. His arguments seem good on a surface level but i don't buy that the nutrient levels affect the plants ability to root that much.
Whats the alternative? Dredge and fill is too expensive and now diversions dont work? so sit and do nothing?
Whats the alternative? Dredge and fill is too expensive and now diversions dont work? so sit and do nothing?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:15 am to Bmath
Still doesn’t mean I don’t want to get paid to play at the water campus. That would be an awesome job
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:23 am to Oilfieldbiology
All I know is Reggio and Delacroix are going to be one massive bay.... Which the crabbers, shrimpers and oyster fisherman are going to be super happy about. It’s crazy the amount of marsh that has been lost out there in the last 15 years.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:47 am to HebertFest08
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All I know is Reggio and Delacroix are going to be one massive bay.... Which the crabbers, shrimpers and oyster fisherman are going to be super happy about. It’s crazy the amount of marsh that has been lost out there in the last 50 years.
Fixed and yes I saw it washing away all those years.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:56 am to goofball
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are slated to cost $2.2 billion and are a major focus of Louisiana's effort to rebuild the state's rapidly eroding marshes.
Are the feds throwing in on this? I’m all for states being self-sufficient and all, but New Orleans is an international city, an American and North American city. It is certainly in the United States’ best financial (and cultural) interest to help preserve it and the surrounding area. Or are we on our own with this project?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 8:56 am to Cosmo
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Uh, the land gain at Atchafalaya and wax lake outlet deltas is significant.
Those aren't Mississippi River diversions - not exactly, at least.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:07 am to FutureMikeVIII
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This exactly, there is a difference between a fresh water diversion and a sediment diversion...OP clearly can't read.
With a sediment diversion, does the water continuing flowing into the marsh? Or does it flow back to the river?
The problem is the river water is polluted. It's not the same river that built the deltas.
Why can't we treat the water before bringing it into the swamps, or just return the water to the river?
Wax Lake works because you don't have all the crap water coming in.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:09 am to goofball
A key point is the discharge rate:
Just for comparison, Bonnet Carre has a max flow of 250,000 cfs when all bays are open ( LINK).
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Alex Kolker, a coastal research professor at the Louisiana Universities Marine Consortium, pointed out that both freshwater diversions were designed to have relatively small flows of water, compared to the proposed sediment diversions.
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Both are “too small to counteract the broad scale of land loss that we’re seeing across the state because of sea level rise, subsidence, saltwater intrusion, the leveeing of the Mississippi River and the effects of oil spills,” Kolker said.
The new diversions would capture up to 50 times as much water, with a much greater percentage of sediment: as much 75,000 cubic feet per second of water and sediment during high river periods.
Just for comparison, Bonnet Carre has a max flow of 250,000 cfs when all bays are open ( LINK).
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:10 am to LSUFanHouston
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With a sediment diversion, does the water continuing flowing into the marsh? Or does it flow back to the river?
It's a continuous outward flow. It doesn't go back into the river. The only time I think you might could see that happen would be during a strong storm surge event, but it'd be rare.
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:11 am to goofball
Who would have thought that mother nature knows best?
Posted on 8/21/19 at 9:11 am to goofball
I'll file this under No shite
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