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re: LSU Study: Mississippi River diversions led to wetland loss, not growth

Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:29 am to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57468 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:29 am to
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I saw a report the other day that Mardi Bras Pass was building new land.


you should hear what nungesser is running around saying. How the consultants got to cpra to build these structures and how there is no proof they work and how he doesnt believe the science. Typical politician.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59206 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:33 am to
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and cultural) interest


Public Financial decisions shouldn’t be made for emotional reasons.


I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Do you not agree that New Orleans brings in international tourists that contribute to the U.S. economy due to its very unique history and culture?

But beyond that, it’s still a huge port city at the mouth of the biggest and most financially impactful river in the U.S. Do you not think the federal government has an interest in maintaining it as a functional city?
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22176 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:34 am to
Yeah no shite
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57468 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:46 am to
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I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Do you not agree that New Orleans brings in international tourists that contribute to the U.S. economy due to its very unique history and culture?

But beyond that, it’s still a huge port city at the mouth of the biggest and most financially impactful river in the U.S. Do you not think the federal government has an interest in maintaining it as a functional city?

you do know this is being paid for by the BP oils spill money right, and not just the state? LINK

hell most state projects have supported funding form the federal government.
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 10:47 am
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22696 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:50 am to
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What's your practical solution, bruh?

Blow the levies south of BRLA. It's the only way.


I said practical.

I know that the only way would be to get rid of levees, but that will never happen as an act of man in this moment of time.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37140 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 10:55 am to
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you should hear what nungesser is running around saying. How the consultants got to cpra to build these structures and how there is no proof they work and how he doesnt believe the science. Typical politician.




Nungesser is just trying to protect his people down there.

If the diversions don't work, we will have screwed up the fishing / oysters down there (a big part of the plaquemines economy) and we won't have any more land (or we might have even accelerated land loss).

Now if the do work, the people down there can keep living there for another 100 years. The fishing and crabbing will still be screwed up.

If we do nothing, the fishing and crabbing will be fine, but the people will have to move further inland.

The science isn't as settled as you think it is. I think Nungesser is scared to act, because his people are scared of the risk.
Posted by Elusiveporpi
Below I-10
Member since Feb 2011
2575 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:01 am to
Divert the Entire river east and west at Myrtle Grove. Dig a narrow deep shipping lane on one side, or both with no levees. Continuously dredge( they already do this in the Mississippi). Below this point will slowly vanish, but its for the greater good of the state.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10630 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:50 am to
dynamite the levees south of Venice.

Even better, use the $2 billion to relocate everyone south of Port Sulphur and dynamite the levees south of P Sulphur.

Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10630 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:53 am to
"If the diversions don't work, we will have screwed up the fishing / oysters down there...."

---The commercial oyster industry loves the status quo. The receding land creates large shallow flat beds perfect for oysters.

Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37559 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:55 am to
I’m saying a large contingent of federal tax payers don’t give two shits about New Orleans culture and therefore federal policy makers shouldn’t either.

They should however care that the major port of the MS River is maintained
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 11:56 am
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
2229 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:00 pm to
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dynamite the levees south of Venice.


Um, there are NO levees south of Venice, man.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:01 pm to
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dynamite the levees south of Venice.
What?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37559 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:01 pm to
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Um, there Is nothing south of Venice, man.


Fify
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26033 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:08 pm to
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"If the diversions don't work, we will have screwed up the fishing / oysters down there...."

---The commercial oyster industry loves the status quo. The receding land creates large shallow flat beds perfect for oysters.


Oyster Fisherman who operate near Chandeleur Islands show off their Mardi Gras Pass experience from August 6

"7000 tons of crushed limestone two years of planting, just started to harvest my very first harvest and then boom all dead."
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6230 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:13 pm to
The only certain outcome of the entire coastal protection racket is the enrichment of connected consultants, researchers and contractors, all at the expense of taxpayers.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26033 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:16 pm to
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If the freshwater diversions going into the swamp are accelerating land loss, and the water flow from the sediment diversions is going to be that much larger... are we going to capture enough sediment to even counteract the land loss from the water intrusion? Much less actually start rebuilding land?


"A recent study done by the CPRA at the proposed site of the Mid Breton Diversion, showed that at high river conditions, suspended sediment ratio was 700 mg. per litre of water. This is what that looks like."

Posted by TheRange
Member since Aug 2017
150 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:33 pm to
Bruh wax lake gets 30% of mississippi river flow..
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
3697 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:35 pm to
Use the dredges that are running now and pump every single bit of sediment over the levees. Especially to the east of the river. Build a huge diversion canal just south of Belle Chasse on the west side. Build rock islands where the old barriers islands were 150 years ago. Let everything fill in.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57468 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:41 pm to
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If the diversions don't work, we will have screwed up the fishing / oysters down there (a big part of the plaquemines economy) and we won't have any more land (or we might have even accelerated land loss).
they are running oysters closer to their home than ever before. Thats not a good thing....well for them it is because they save on gas. Oyster best used to be mile and miles away. SO introducing fresh water will kill the beds that have set up close to home. It used to be a freshwater estuary not salt.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57468 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:42 pm to
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Use the dredges that are running now and pump every single bit of sediment over the levees.
pump it where?
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