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re: Louisiana taking another stab at making kratom illegal to appease Big Pharma

Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5918 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:26 pm to
Typical. I'm not surprised. The same assholes that lied about opiate addiction get to decide on kratom.

Kratom has a couple negative effects but far far far less than painkillers.
Posted by ragincajun77
Member since Jul 2019
911 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:26 pm to
Last time I checked marijuana was illegal in Louisiana
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134620 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:27 pm to
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MDMA began as a marriage counseling drug. There have been several studies that link psychotropics to relieving the effects of PTSD and cluster headaches.


See, my position is that things like this need to be ethically produced, with rigorous standards, and in the hands of qualified, ethical people.

Not some gangbanger selling pressed pills with 90% bullshite.

If you criminalize what should be a legitimate business you turn legitimate businessmen into criminals and open up the black market to abuse and adulteration

You’d think we’d have learned our lesson with prohibition
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5866 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:29 pm to
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Louisiana taking another stab at making kratom illegal to appease Big PharmaSo you would prefer that a chemical that supposedly works on the opioid receptors in the brain and can be used as a sedative be completely unregulated and with no oversight into production or dosing? And the claims by said manufacturers not subject to any review or approval by the FDA... Got it.



This was my first thought. My second was "This dude is picking this hill?"
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5918 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:34 pm to
quote:

So you would prefer that a chemical that supposedly works on the opioid receptors in the brain and can be used as a sedative be completely unregulated and with no oversight into production or dosing? And the claims by said manufacturers not subject to any review or approval by the FDA...

Got it.


Do you make a habit of hallucinating shite to argue against? The op talks of idiot politicians declaring a non lethal substance as schedule 1 and therefore having no medical use.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38022 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:35 pm to
As a non drug user I prefer to have the government not tell others what they can put in their body.

And yes the whole war on drugs has been so successful so far that we should double down.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25691 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:37 pm to
Land of the not so free
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:43 pm to
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Last time I checked marijuana was illegal in Louisiana


Are we going to ignore the Louisiana medical marijuana dispensary that sold to its first customer yesterday?

I guess one of us is.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 6:44 pm
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
35920 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

Kratom


Basically makes you feel good.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74241 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:48 pm to
Question.

How is marijuana a schedule 1 (no medical use) when marijuana is medicinal in most states.

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74241 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:49 pm to
I never tried it, but knew someone with an addiction that beat it with Kratom.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5866 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

As a non drug user I prefer to have the government not tell others what they can put in their body. And yes the whole war on drugs has been so successful so far that we should double down.



I normally agree 100% with you on this. Until I watch the news and some "methhead" in LP is on for cutting out his unborn kid from his wife's stomach after having snorted "bath salts" bought at fricking convenient store legally.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
40383 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 6:52 pm to
Haha. Rickety Cricket is a Kratom junky. You fricking pathetic loser.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
10066 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:40 pm to
This is another instance of Louisiana going backwards.

Kratom is not nearly as addictive or strong as heroin, and is not an opiate.

My guess is Chris Turner is being paid by lobbying groups or is just doing it for his own wellbeing (pharmacy).

How about our dumbass politicians actually improve Louisiana's economy which benefits everyone and stop dabbling in trivial matters such and controlling what people put in their own bodies.

"Small gov conservative"


This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 7:42 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:43 pm to
quote:

Kratom is not nearly as addictive or strong as heroin, and is not an opiate.


Kratom is some nasty shite still. I dont think anything should be illegal, but it's not exactly safe either.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:51 pm to
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LDH spokeswoman Mindy Faciane told Gambit the decision was made with consumer well-being in mind. “The Louisiana Department of Health supports any efforts that help make Louisiana residents safer,” Faciane said.


In prison, of course!
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:53 pm to
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How is marijuana a schedule 1 (no medical use) when marijuana is medicinal in most states.


Because LDH knows whats best for you and thinks prison is a safer place for you if you touch thd devils lettuce.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32168 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 7:57 pm to
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The whole point of the FDA review process is to make sure the shite actually does what we think it does and is not actually bad for you. And their claims are required to be supported by clinical evidence that stands up to peer review.



Read the book Bottle of Lies. It'll change your outlook on the FDA and especially generic drugs.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
10066 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 8:00 pm to
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Kratom is some nasty shite still. I dont think anything should be illegal, but it's not exactly safe either.


Guess it depends on the person.

I've done kratom about once a week for a couple years now. Sometimes go weeks in between, no addiction at all and is about as inebriating as 1 drink.
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7915 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 8:14 pm to
I've been taken it daily for five years. When you first start you get a very mild buzz similar to a caffeine buzz but on the mellow end instead of the shaky end of the spectrum.

After a couple weeks it doesn't do that anymore but it still helps my anxiety and greatly reduced my migraines so I still take it.

It's a plant in the same family as coffee and tea and its just ground up leaves if not tampered with. Don't buy the stuff at gas stations not only is it a rip off but I don't trust it. You can get it online reasonably priced in bulk.
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