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re: Louisiana State Parks Offer Free Admission to People Vaccinated Against COVID-19
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:17 pm to Jax Teller
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:17 pm to Jax Teller
Trust Gov now instead of trust science 
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Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:17 pm to mikelbr
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The argument I have is scientists can't determine whether the vaccine protects people longer than antibodies from having already been infected.
Science says I'm protected up to 2 years and vaccines are good up to a year. WTF is that?
exposure to 1 antigen spike protein vs exposure to the whole virus. its like if you had just a photo of a wanted person vs a photo + fingerprint. having more data to work with is generally better.
ETA for your edit...
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I had the virus.
The argument I have is scientists can't determine whether the vaccine protects people longer than antibodies from having already been infected.
Science says I'm protected up to 2 years and vaccines are good up to a year. WTF is that?
Meanwhile, there are legitimate concerns with side effects of the vaccines.
So logically, I'll wait until next year when my estimated 2 years of natural antibody protection expires.
This post was edited on 6/16 at 7:07 pm
yea its tough if you already had the virus, should be an equivalent for those who earned immunity from infection.
there are not really legit concerns with side effects.
This post was edited on 6/16/21 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:29 pm to RougeDawg
Nungesser, trying so hard to be governor, by discriminating against those most likely to vote. He's way too stupid to trust with that level of responsibility.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:31 pm to hubertcumberdale
Having gotten the shot, I can tell you it's damned inconvenient to have pieces of metal sticking to you all the time.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:37 pm to RougeDawg
Do any of the state parks in LA have bike trails like Tyler State Park in Texas? I normally spend the money for a yearly membership at the Lincoln Parish Park for the bike trails. Are there any North Louisiana state parks with paved, or dirt, bike trails?
Free trails might be better than spending $100 for a yearly parish park membership.
I knew that proof of vaccination on LA Wallet was going to get used.
Free trails might be better than spending $100 for a yearly parish park membership.
I knew that proof of vaccination on LA Wallet was going to get used.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:44 pm to RougeDawg
Wow, we really suck at everything.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:49 pm to League Champs
quote:You don't think people over 60 vote. I think politics is all some of them care about. If Billy wants to attract some conservative voters, he's rewarding the right people. They're watching Fox News all day because, "Nothing else is on."
by discriminating against those most likely to vote.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 7:58 pm to Jim Rockford
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Having gotten the shot, I can tell you it's damned inconvenient to have pieces of metal sticking to you all the time.
Yeah, but I can stream in 4k.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:03 pm to AMS
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exposure to 1 antigen spike protein vs exposure to the whole virus. its like if you had just a photo of a wanted person vs a photo + fingerprint. having more data to work with is generally better.
I would argue that is a relatively poor analogy. The spike protein is unique. We are talking about a chain of more than 1000 amino acids and more than a dozen sugar molecules. If the body can identify that it makes no difference if the virus particle is spherical or cubical or there are 25 trimers or 50. Expanding on your analogy it is more like having a full DNA panel.
Not arguing whether more or less immunity is received via vaccine or having an infection just about the way you approached explaining it and the conclusion that logically follows.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:07 pm to RougeDawg
Whoop de doo.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:09 pm to TheFonz
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Whoop de doo.
It's a slippery slope. They will keep ramping it up till it is more than a whoop de doo.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:24 pm to RougeDawg
We wrote about this :)
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:33 pm to Obtuse1
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I would argue that is a relatively poor analogy. The spike protein is unique. We are talking about a chain of more than 1000 amino acids and more than a dozen sugar molecules. If the body can identify that it makes no difference if the virus particle is spherical or cubical or there are 25 trimers or 50. Expanding on your analogy it is more like having a full DNA panel.
Not arguing whether more or less immunity is received via vaccine or having an infection just about the way you approached explaining it and the conclusion that logically follows.
if you think identifying 1 epitope means there should be no difference at all how do you explain different efficacies in moderna/pfizer/J&J/AZN? they all identify a unique epitope after all...
maybe a simple analogy, but it should get the point across. yes the spike is unique...that's how the humoral immune system works by identifying unique epitopes.
just because its a 'unique' spike protein doesnt mean there isnt slight variation in its structure (there is). being able to identify more epitopes allows your immune system greater opportunity to present antigens and mount a humoral response. IE recognizing more epitopes (fingerprints+photos) = identify the pathogen sooner with a better multi-antigen humoral response (than just photos).
Posted on 6/16/21 at 8:54 pm to hubertcumberdale
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At this point, what is the argument to not be vaccinated? Seems like a win-win for everyone to be vaccinated, idk, maybe im crazy.
Let's see:
Virus created in a lab
Spread intentionally be China and Democrats
Vaccine created in under a year
At every turn, the government and everyone that leeches off the government is bribing citizens to take it
History of Dim's doing shady shite like this
History of shady Dim's part of the virus and vaccine creation
Taking a vaccination for a virus that amounts to the cold and death numbers have been hyper inflated for
And the biggest argument for not being vaccinated? Dim's that created this mess are hysterical if you don't do it, that's as sure as a sign that you shouldn't do it. The fricking people are retarded.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 9:27 pm to hubertcumberdale
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At this point, what is the argument to not be vaccinated?
The vaccine is like that badass motorcycle in the famous for sale ad. It’s not for kids or pussies.
Posted on 6/16/21 at 9:32 pm to RougeDawg
Neat...I'll continue to go to my private land and lakes, which continue to not require proof of vaccination....I'd imagine that will not change
Posted on 6/16/21 at 10:44 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Brilliant strategy. Offer free admission to parks that only cost $3 to enter when the Office of Tourism is one of the worst funded in the state.
And the offer expires July 31!
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