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re: Louisiana orders 148K COVID vaccines for kids ages 5 to 11

Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:31 pm to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:31 pm to
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Ok, the vaccine still reduces the possibility. This isn’t difficult



By this logic you should spend $1000 for every powerball drawing because it increases your odds.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108444 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:33 pm to
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By this logic you should spend $1000 for every powerball drawing because it increases your odds.



Or we could compare it to getting the flu and varicella vaccines
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108444 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:34 pm to
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Posters who aren’t a virologist, a statistician, or a parent, yet out here handing out free advice about vaccinating young children.
Between the two of us, it’s pretty fascinating you think that is me

You and others have downright crucified any parent who would give the vaccine to their children
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 8:35 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62022 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:34 pm to
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I don’t know many parents that skip the varicella and flu vaccines for their children



You think the majority of parents give the flu vaccine to their kids?
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36393 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:36 pm to
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we could compare it to getting the flu

Do most kids get the flu shot? I think I’ve only gotten it ~5 times in my life, and only due to work requirements.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108444 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:36 pm to
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You think the majority of parents give the flu vaccine to their kids?

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CDC analyzed data from two telephone surveys, the National Immunization Survey-Flu (NIS-Flu) and the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System (BRFSS), to estimate flu vaccination coverage for the U.S. population during the 2019–20 flu season. Vaccination coverage with =1 dose of flu vaccine was 63.8% among children 6 months through 17 years, an increase of 1.2 percentage points from the 2018–19 flu season


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For the 2017-'18 school year, a median of 93.8% of children in kindergarten had received two doses of a varicella-containing vaccine, but rates vary by state. By comparison, 94.3% of kindergartners had received two doses of measles, mumps and rubella vaccine, according to the CDC National Immunization Survey.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
24522 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:38 pm to
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The diocese should tread very lightly in this considering the shite storm that came at them when they wanted to segregate the kids by making unvaccinated where a damn mask while vaccinated would not have to. Try to put that vaccine mandate in these schools and parents will flip out and the money will be taken away.


That whole thing was one of the more amazing things I've seen happen vs the local catholic church. Just when you thought they'd tow the line, they balked. When the parents threaten to take them out of school en masse, it gets some attention.

Either way, I think that was just the tip of the iceberg. If there's a vaccine mandate and they don't throw everything they have against it, there will be major damage to their individual coffers. I've already been approached by a few parents about the formation of an independent catholic school. There's a fire burning with a lot of these moms and dads and the powder keg is ready to blow.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:39 pm to
The flu shot and chicken pox vaccine are completely different things (not to mention MMR), not sure why you keep lumping them together.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 8:41 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108444 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:41 pm to
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The flu shot and mmr are completely different things, not sure why you keep limping them together.


I didn’t….That is just mentioned in the chicken pox paragraph

Chicken pox and flu have similar fatality rates to children as covid, statistically 0

94% of children get vaccinated for chickenpox

64% of children get vaccinated for the flu

So, it seems simple as to why a lot of parents are also going to give their children the covid vaccine
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 8:42 pm
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36393 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:43 pm to
I think the flu shot is similar because like COVID it would be needed yearly (assuming). I didn’t realize it was that prevalent, as stated I’ve only gotten it as an adult, don’t really plan on getting it for my kid either.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108444 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:44 pm to
Understood. I’m just trying to compare it to other vaccines children take for viruses that have no statistical danger to them

This isn’t really unique from that standpoint. What’s unique is the political weapon covid has turned into
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:47 pm to
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1 Millions of parents don’t see this vaccine as dangerous and they view it similar to the varicella vaccine.


What are the mid and long term effects of the vaccine on kids? On anybody? NOBODY KNOWS.

We do know the risk of covid to kids from 5-11. Far more likely to die in auto accident than covid to kill a 5-11 year old. The risk is miniscule.

So known miniscule covid risk vs known short term vaccine risk and unknown and very well could be significant mid and long term risk.

Anybody with an ounce of sense can see that taking the covid vaccine is absolute nonsense when it comes to healthy 5-11 years old. How can anybody not see this?????

For God's sake, it is an experimental vaccine!!!
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 8:48 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108444 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:51 pm to
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What are the mid and long term effects of the vaccine on kids? On anybody? NOBODY KNOWS.

We do know the risk of covid to kids from 5-11
You do not know the “long term effects” of covid anymore than you do the vaccine with the way you define it….

The truth is the “long term effects” as they are defined in actual medicine are know in both. Long term effect is something that forms soon after a virus or vaccine and then has an effect long term

The definition got fricking butchered by covid Karen’s that tried to scare people acting like someone who had covid and recovered would later have issues pop up out of nowhere years later.

Then, the vaccine nuthobs ran with it as well. If you have a clean bill of health with labs and everything else weeks after either the virus or the vaccine, you have no long term effects. Period
Posted by Magnum GI
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
11 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:55 pm to
Define “sick”.

As a clinician, I have minimal concerns about my children getting “sick” to the point they need hospitalization. If they’re “sick” with a seasonal cold, meh. And let’s be honest, the overwhelming odds are that it’s a nothing burger for kids.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:57 pm to
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The truth is the “long term effects” as they are defined in actual medicine are know in both.


bullshite!!!!!!

You are the definition of OBTUSE.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73180 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:06 pm to
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Between the two of us, it’s pretty fascinating you think that is me


it’s fascinating you think i care that much about you.

and your ’s are a dead give away how upset you are. try not to take this personal


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You and others have downright crucified any parent who would give the vaccine to their children


correct, as they should be. because it’s not risk mitigation at this point for children, see the statistics. But society has been conditioned not to think for ourselves anymore and that should be called out.

and again: i’m not sure why you care, you aren’t a parent.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 9:09 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62022 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:10 pm to
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CDC analyzed data from two telephone surveys, the National Immunization Survey-Flu (NIS-Flu) and the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System (BRFSS), to estimate flu vaccination coverage for the U.S. population during the 2019–20 flu season. Vaccination coverage with =1 dose of flu vaccine was 63.8% among children 6 months through 17 years, an increase of 1.2 percentage points from the 2018–19 flu season


That would surprise me. But, it's notable that this is a telephone survey.

Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
6768 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:11 pm to
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"We could be offering vaccine to children within one to two weeks," Dr. Joe Kanter, Louisiana's state health officer, said at a Tuesday press conference. "That's very, very exciting."


Why do liberals all talk like this and love being talked to like 5 year olds? “(generic statement). This is very, very exciting. You should feel excited about this” What a bunch of of autistic reject losers, I can’t imagine centering my life around such a cringe ideology and group of people
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19549 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:20 pm to
Are you fricking serious?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100456 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 9:27 pm to
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to clarify: sick or hospitalized?
Both, and death


That age group has a higher chance of developing myocarditis from the shot than dying from Covid.

Unless the kid has a condition that makes them highly susceptible to Covid they should not get the vaccine.

These are facts.
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