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re: Louisiana Ice Storm Thread *Winter Storm Warning*

Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by lsugolfredman
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:41 pm to
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even the weather.gov forecasts are based on their grids.


Of course, but grounded in a mixture of climatology and data analysis.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:43 pm to
I'm guessing a tankless heater in the attic is a bit safer than tank?
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:45 pm to
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Your attic should be heated enough from the living area beneath it so that your pipes don't freeze. As long as you have electricity.


I have two gas fireplaces, I think I'm ok.
Posted by trussthetruzz
Member since Sep 2020
9336 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:45 pm to
my tankless was fine the last time it got in the teens (2018?) but I have top of the line attic insulation
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:47 pm to
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Maybe it is a Louisiana thing? I've never seen a house without one in the attic.



So I had to Google it because every single house I've lived in (in Kentucky) had the water heater typically in a first floor area like a laundry room. Even better if it's on a outside wall where you can just set it up to drain right out into the backyard if it leaks.

Apparently, it's done to save square footage and they usually work more efficiently in the warmer months in the attic.

It's apparently a Texas thing too.

I don't even want to think about the water damage if that thing busts in an attic.

JD Precision Plumbing explanation for water heater in the attic
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 2:49 pm
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:51 pm to
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I don't even want to think about the water damage if that thing busts in an attic


Ours in the basement and busted last year. I caught it pretty quickly before it did much damage, but we're still at around a $7k claim.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:52 pm to
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It's apparently a Texas thing too.


I have one in my attic in Collierville, TN, and I believe every house I've lived in in the area did as well.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
38065 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:53 pm to
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Probably a safe bet to go ahead and buy some pipe insulation at the hardware store before it gets wild. I have a brand new DSLD home (first house) and nervous about how to prep it.


Be damn sure to insulate the water service entry from the ground up to where it turns into the house. This is typically at the corner of the garage on the recent DSLD homes.

Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 2:54 pm to
Yep that's where mine is at. Hoping some tubing does the trick.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:00 pm to
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I have one in my attic in Collierville, TN, and I believe every house I've lived in in the area did as well.



Same here. We have two in our attic. One big one and one smaller one.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 3:01 pm
Posted by geauxtigersgirl
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:08 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/1/21 at 1:46 pm
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:10 pm to
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Meteorologist Nick Mikulas
The morning models have been pretty wild. I see some issues in the inner workings of the more extreme solutions, but even a compromise of all the data that leans toward the warmer stuff is pretty impressive. I’ll post an update this evening after I sort through the madness. And when I say “warmer stuff”, it ain’t warm. Not at all.
Posted by JusTrollin
Member since Oct 2016
269 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:12 pm to
People here are ridiculous... Lets say you have 60 gallons of 120 degree water in your insulated water heater. Do you really think if its an average temp of 30 degrees for 2 days that it will freeze that mass?

No
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:15 pm to
OP, let's see some maps. I like pictures
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50563 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:16 pm to
Thank you! But I think the bigger concern may be the lines going to and from the water heater, if it’s in the attic. The entire tank will not freeze
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50563 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:16 pm to
I’m on my phone right now so I can’t.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
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Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

People here are ridiculous... Lets say you have 60 gallons of 120 degree water in your insulated water heater. Do you really think if its an average temp of 30 degrees for 2 days that it will freeze that mass?

No



You think lines won't freeze?
Posted by JusTrollin
Member since Oct 2016
269 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:20 pm to
Maybe if you live in a shack? There is still a lot of heat transfer going to and from the lines in the tank and the majority of these are buried in celling insulation or in a wall.

If you are that worried just leave a hot water tap slightly open.
This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 3:22 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
87962 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:21 pm to
The real issue is heat from the house if the power goes out. Not everyone has fireplaces to keep the rooms underneath the attic warm allowing for heat transfer upward. My attic is very well insulated and even stays relatively cool in the summer months for Louisiana. I may throw a thermometer up there just to see how low it goes for this round. Even with the water tank and lines up there, I don't foresee a problem. But I'll be keeping an eye on things even overnight.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 2/10/21 at 3:22 pm to
Seems it'd just be easier to close the valves coming into and out of the water heater than draining the whole thing.
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