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re: Louisiana has one of the most valuable ports in the world and a huge O&G presence.

Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:48 pm to
Ok apparently Mobile is lower than I thought. I could have sworn it was bigger than New Orleans. Not sure what South Louisiana means here though.

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1 South Louisiana United States 235,058
2 Houston United States 218,575
3 Metro Vancouver Canada 138,228
4 New York/New Jersey United States 114,933
5 New Orleans United States 79,661
6 Beaumont United States 79,081
7 Corpus Christi United States 77,724
8 Long Beach United States 70,991
9 Baton Rouge United States 62,399
10 Los Angeles United States 54,602
11 Mobile United States 53,157
12 Virginia United States 52,402
13 Lake Charles United States 51,431
14 Plaquemines United States 48,541
15 Lazaro Cardenas Mexico 33,212



This site has a totally different list with no Louisiana ports in the top ten LINK
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:50 pm to
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Not sure what South Louisiana means here though.


The Port of South Louisiana. It’s a port district that runs about 50 miles in the River Parishes.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21749 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:57 pm to
frick yes culture!! Tasty food and tourism!! fricking Mardi Gras!!!
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:14 pm to
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A lot of Louisiana guys push for moving to Texas and complain about our State. But i know A LOT of people who have come to louisiana. Yankees and southerners alike. They fall in love with the flavor. The communities. The heat. 



Is that why "I'm a Who Dat" song is the State Anthem?

I believe it is befitting of every Louisiana quality.
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:24 pm to
So add up the ports of Baton Rouge, New Orleans, South Louisiana, and Plaquemines and you will have the Lower Mississippi River port system as a whole.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Captain Crackysack
Member since Oct 2017
2231 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:27 pm to
And your second link is only ranking ports by TEUs (twenty foot equivalent units).that's a measure of containerized cargoes. Its not taking into account break bulk or liquid bulk cargoes.
Posted by Hou_Lawyer
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:27 pm to
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Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10230 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:28 pm to
Intellectually lazy and a culture of stifling leadership more interested in self enrichment.
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4288 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:30 pm to
when you let the minorities become the majority ....
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:43 pm to
Great take.
Posted by HerkFlyer
Auburn, AL
Member since Jan 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:29 pm to
I've spent 8 god for fricking saken months of my life in Qatar and Louisiana feels like Minnesota in comparison.
Posted by BoomBoomBoom
Member since Oct 2013
940 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:02 am to
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Why are we a poor state and not Qatar?

Democrats from the Longs to John Edwards
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 12:32 am to

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could have sworn it was bigger than New Orleans


Jeez
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 12:42 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15772 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 2:14 am to
Petrochemical companies own most of the sugar cane fields along the Mississippi River. They bought that up back in the 1960's. They lease them out to farmers. Mostly Down and Union Carbide did that, now most owned by Dow.

Corruption was almost gone at state level, now due $1 million campaign donations per law firm, it's back at the highest level. Straight from a former general legal counsel of a petrochemical company, local officials have hands out constantly whining and begging much more a pain in the arse than anything else. Ascension and Plaquemine parishes are pretty bad about that.

Exxon Baton Rouge would have to sell to someone else or dig to China if they ever closed the place. That's why it isn't going to shutdown.

What Louisiana lacks that especially Houston doesn't is downstream industry for refining/petrochemicals. The amount of small manufacturers there is a wet dream for the entire state of Louisiana. While their property taxes are a helluva lot higher it goes to LOCAL neighborhood school districts. LaPorte and Deer Park school districts have money out the wazoo. Industry has an educated labor pool almost within walking distance. It's a win/win for them. True no income tax but they now have a franchise tax which is actually a corporate income tax on GROSS SALES, not net profit.

What are you going to do? The only place for business to grow like Houston for New Orleans is the North Shore and they don't want any manufacturing there. They want to be a bunch of bedroom communities. Hell they didn't want anyone to develop that Causeway construction property in Mandeville into a very nice marina. The NIMBY is strong there.

Also, our oil and gas riches are no longer here. There would have been a lot of hydraulic fracturing for oil if it were. Dumbasses on the North Shore don't even know that oil and gas wells were drilled long ago in St, Tammany a few are still producing.

As for past riches, ask Leander Perez, HUey and EWE. We would have paved the highways with gold in those days. EWE decide to payola the whiners mostly in NOLA.

What happened the gambling tax money in NOLA? In Lake Chuck, nary a penny went to general fund but instead to infrastructure replacement (streets repaved, brand new water and sewer piping, and the rest went into a rainy day fund.
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21635 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:20 am to
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Why are we a poor state and not Qatar?


Not the sole reason...but definitely one of the main reasons:

Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5582 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 7:42 am to
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Louisiana's individual and corporate taxes are NOT too low.


Forbes ranked states by tax burden a few years ago (for individuals) and Louisiana was the 6th best right behind Texas at #5. While I agree that our taxes aren’t ‘too low’, they aren’t high either. I know you didn’t claim that, I’m just pointing it out bc I hear people all the time bitch about Louisiana’s taxes but they aren’t bad if we are being honest.

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We stay poor because we cannot/will not educate our children


Couldn’t agree more.
Posted by Lickitty Split
Inside
Member since Apr 2017
4161 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 8:18 am to
We have the highest sales tax of any state. We also have income tax, property tax and excise taxes. I’m not sure how Forbes came up with their ranking but I wouldn’t doubt if they didn’t take everything into account.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15772 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:29 am to
I'd lay 100 to 1 odds that not a single person in the state knows specifically the actual destination of each tax dollar or even large chunks to tax dollars
Posted by stapuffmarshy
lower 9
Member since Apr 2010
17507 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:36 am to
I'm not reading all the responses but if it hasn't been said already...


The STATE is not poor.

The STATE is poorly run.

You get what you vote for.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34582 posts
Posted on 8/17/19 at 9:41 am to
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Forbes ranked states by tax burden a few years ago (for individuals) and Louisiana was the 6th best right behind Texas at #5.
in reality, Louisiana has the 24th highest tax burden, Texas is 33rd. Less than a percentage point separates the 2, but they are both middle of the pack, not top 10

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We have the highest sales tax of any state.
4th highest, we can't even be the best at that
This post was edited on 8/17/19 at 9:43 am
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