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re: Louisiana guts net metering for Solar which kills the industry in Louisiana
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:06 am to brass2mouth
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:06 am to brass2mouth
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Republicans gonna Republican
Guess free markets and ending regulations is just lip service. Who woulda thunk?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:11 am to hubreb
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Solar is more expensive than fossil, nuclear, hydro unless it is subsidized
evidence? Every thing I can find from the last 2 years says the exact opposite. Nuclear is only viable because of subsidies, hydro isn't feasible in the majority of the country, Coal is only viable because of subsidies, and O&G still gets subsidies for some reason.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:12 am to kew48
Can someone put this into Layman's terms?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:20 am to Golfer
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I don’t like the idea of the retailer being forced to buy their product at retail rates just because of its source.
OK but if Entergy does not want to buy back my excess at retail rates, then they should then only charge me wholesale rates for the equal amount I use from them.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:20 am to LSUlefty
does this new model only apply to excess energy sold back to the utility? or does it apply to the electricity generated for the house with the panels on it? if its just for the excess, that number is so minuscule I'm not sure why anyone gives a frick
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:38 am to 9Fiddy
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It makes no business sense to pay 1:1
I would agree with this on "pay".
I think the idea was, no money was changing hands with net metering. So it wasn't really costing the utility anything. If anything, the only cost was the surplus energy purchased that it wasn't able to sell.
And yes, there is a cost there.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:41 am to brass2mouth
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Why should we be stuck with one electricity supplier?
Move to a deregulated state

This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 11:42 am
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:48 am to hubertcumberdale
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Move to a deregulated state
That's stupid answer. Why not fix the problems we have here?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:49 am to LSUFanHouston
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That's stupid answer. Why not fix the problems we have here?
Idk if deregulation is the answer? Enron proved this a while back.
Why is every state not deregulated? I do not own solar panels so I could care less.
Goodluck lobbying LA politicians to go deregulated, or make any kind of policy change in this state for that matter
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 11:52 am
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:52 am to TegrityFarms
How many people in this thread have solar panels on their house?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:54 am to rblank6061
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What's different about the kilowatt I produce from the kilowatt they produce?
You don't have the ability to store, market, or sell it.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:58 am to hubertcumberdale
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Idk if deregulation is the answer? Enron proved this a while back.
Enron didn't have much to do with that issue.
It seems like it took 10-15 years for Texas to figure it out, but it seems to work great now.
If LA ever tried it, maybe they could learn from Texas and it not take as long.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:58 am to bee Rye
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because the sales model was designed to prey on low income customers
Now take a look at the "lease" option that a bunch of those grifters were selling in New Orleans....
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:00 pm to Antonio Moss
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You don't have the ability to store, market, or sell it
Entergy's not storing it either.
And they have a monopoly on marketing and selling it.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:02 pm to eScott
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Why should we be stuck with one electricity supplier?
You can install solar panels if you want an alternate supplier. It would reduce the electrical energy you buy from Entergy. If Entergy wants to buy some of your excess energy it's up to them how much they'll pay, if anything. They don't need your electricity.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:03 pm to KiwiHead
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OK but if Entergy does not want to buy back my excess at retail rates, then they should then only charge me wholesale rates for the equal amount I use from them.
Lol
And the utilities are the greedy ones.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:04 pm to Jester
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Now take a look at the "lease" option that a bunch of those grifters were selling in New Orleans....
Most of the new panel packages sold were for 25K with 20K in credits. So net cost 5K.
The leases were for 45/month for 15 years. $540 a year, $8,100 over 15 years. Those also included a maintenance package which wasn't included if you bought them. Also, when you factor in an interest rate, it's not bad at all.
The people of NOLA east have had much worse scams in their life than this one.
The ones who really got scammed were the ones who bought them. the solar company charged $25,000 to a credit card they set up for them, with 0 interest for 12 months. Then, when the state hosed with the state credits, these people were on the hook for a ton of interest, if they could not afford to pay off the card while waiting for the $12,500 from the state.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:06 pm to Nawlens Gator
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If Entergy wants to buy some of your excess energy it's up to them how much they'll pay, if anything.
This is absolutely false in a regulated market. There needs to be an open and honest conversation about net-metering rates in the state. Buying it at avoided cost as nearly as asinine as buying it back at retail rate. Like most discussions in this country, though, neither side is willing to compromise.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:07 pm to KiwiHead
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OK but if Entergy does not want to buy back my excess at retail rates, then they should then only charge me wholesale rates for the equal amount I use from them.
So you think you should be able to dig a water well and sell it back to the utility at full retail?
Are you going to run the water pipes back to the water towers?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:13 pm to LSUFanHouston
Enron Caused California Blackouts Traders Say
^I know this is an extreme example and dereg may be the way to go now, I honestly dont know enough about the details.
There has to be some kind of infrastructure/competency constraint with Louisiana that is preventing dereg?
^I know this is an extreme example and dereg may be the way to go now, I honestly dont know enough about the details.
There has to be some kind of infrastructure/competency constraint with Louisiana that is preventing dereg?
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