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re: Louisiana guts net metering for Solar which kills the industry in Louisiana
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:30 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:30 pm to fightin tigers
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Fossil is legally subsidized by the state.
And the feds. How much is spent on the military to keep Middle East oil flowing? Who pays for oil spill clean up? Who pays for climate change. Etc., etc.
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:40 pm to graychef
I don't think the household solar producers will hurt the 848 million dollar profit last year. Entergy financials from last year
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:43 pm to rblank6061
7% margins 
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:48 pm to TegrityFarms
90% of Louisiana rooftop solar is in New Orleans East. Why is that?
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:54 pm to graychef
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Solar farms do not simply reduce costs and increase profits. You pay a retail rate. That rate includes a bunch of costs it takes to deliver electricity to your house. It includes the “cost of generation” but is not limited to that. There are O&M costs, capital investments.
If the cost of generation decreases it reduces costs and raises profits. This is simple math. The rate may have more built into it, but unless other costs are rising while costs of generation are falling profits increase.
And if that wasn’t the case Entergy would not be leasing power from a new solar farm in West Baton Rouge Parish starting next year. Companies like Entergy generally don’t raise costs and reduce profit voluntarily.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:05 am to TegrityFarms
The industry has been dead for the last few years here. Every single family friend and neighbor who had any kind of significant solar installation done when the credits where high and there where half a dozen companies slinging them up are now wishing they hadn't. Some have waited years for additional panels they had already paid for, nearly having to take the installation company to court to get work completed. Others have had panels deteriorate and now only produce a small fraction of what they originally did and nobody will touch them since there is little standardization. Fly-by-night installers are gone or out of business. One installation was done so badly that it ruined the roof, don't think insurance covered much of that either. Solar industry is a long way from being all that it promises but don't tell that to the resident fart sniffers.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:48 am to Golfer
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Why should the utility be forced to buy electricity at retail rates from a supplier?
this aint even touching on the required infrastructure.
Folks want full retail AND free transmission lol
Posted on 9/16/19 at 12:56 am to baldona
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Let’s not act like they are taking my energy and taking it across the state, it’s going straight to my neighbors house next door. That’s not ‘all kinds of wires to maintain’.
Your grid of two sounds great, just run a wire and sell your neighbor power.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 5:22 am to TegrityFarms
The industry collapsed because it was a sham that could only be sustained through subsidy.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 5:33 am to baldona
quote:You are saying they should buy energy from you for $0.10 per kwh rather than buy it from Georgia for $0.03 per kwh?
Because I don’t give a shite what their cost is to bring energy from Georgia to my house in Florida if I’m producing it to sell to them here.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 6:10 am to TegrityFarms
It's Louisiana; we don't need no solar industry round here.
We like it like it is now. L E W Z I A N E R !!
We like it like it is now. L E W Z I A N E R !!
Posted on 9/16/19 at 6:17 am to TegrityFarms
One thing I'd be really concerned about it how often those panels on your roof have to be replaced. What about hailstorms? A homes roof (unless it's damaged somehow) can live 15-20 years, right? Those panels probably would be 5-10 years although I could be wrong.
Solar is a good idea but is it really there yet?
Solar is a good idea but is it really there yet?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 6:19 am to Tempratt
A good solar panel can reach 20 years.
It isn't a perfect technology, but the solar panels themselves aren't really a limiting factor.
It isn't a perfect technology, but the solar panels themselves aren't really a limiting factor.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 6:20 am to TegrityFarms
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Louisiana guts net metering for Solar
No problem. Just store the extra power in your batteries...oh, wait.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 6:20 am to Asharad
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You are saying they should buy energy from you for $0.10 per kwh rather than buy it from Georgia for $0.03 per kwh?
No, I’m saying that if the power is produced locally and reused locally that cost is significantly lower to the utility company. Certainly less then retail, but they aren’t losing money here.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 6:26 am to Zappas Stache
quote:sort of. Electricity in Texas is deregulated. Therefore, when companies bid on your electricity, you would have to accept the bid that allows buy back. Mine does not . But I don’t have solar panels, so no biggie.
pretty sure Texas does the same thing.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 6:53 am to crazycubes
I’ve never heard of this issue in the south, but I will say that I think the original idea of buy back came from the utility companies in other areas of the country that do run into electrician and utility shortages during the peak times. Utilities in the Northeast, California, etc. do run low on power and water.
So you know, if this was a true market and you have additional power for them during a time they are out of power then the customer should be able to bend them over and charge more then retail. I don’t know if that ever happens. But I’m theory, the idea is there for customers to help the utility out.
So you know, if this was a true market and you have additional power for them during a time they are out of power then the customer should be able to bend them over and charge more then retail. I don’t know if that ever happens. But I’m theory, the idea is there for customers to help the utility out.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:01 am to fightin tigers
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Fossil is legally subsidized by the state.
Could you elaborate further.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 7:34 am to TegrityFarms
Instead of a yearly mythical rate, why not net meter the credits based on the individual month just like your power company determines your monthly bill.
You use X and sell your overage Y.
X-Y=Net Metered power
It sounds like the solar companies were trying to get too greedy and cash in on those days when the wholesale rate spikes such as in Texas when it can get to 9 dollars a Kilowatt hour.
So that was the gimmick of why my power bill went to almost zero which had the touch and feel of a sleazy attorney ad.
You use X and sell your overage Y.
X-Y=Net Metered power
It sounds like the solar companies were trying to get too greedy and cash in on those days when the wholesale rate spikes such as in Texas when it can get to 9 dollars a Kilowatt hour.
So that was the gimmick of why my power bill went to almost zero which had the touch and feel of a sleazy attorney ad.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 8:06 am to TegrityFarms
If you want to subsidize solar, do it honestly. Net-metering at full retail cost is absolutely a subsidy. The utility company is required by law to have enough capacity and infrastructure to power that solar user's house, but net-metering offsets that user's participation in the infrastructure costs.
The solar industry is not "fledgling" like certain companies and lobbies keep saying. It has been around since the 70s, but suddenly became profitable when the state and federal government were picking up 80% of the tab for select individuals. Then, the companies tried to force the state into paying for rented systems, with companies suckering people into signing away their tax credits with awful contracts devoid of sunset clauses.
90% of the Louisiana solar industry can get fricked. Bunch of damn grifters. Now, there are some honest groups out there, but the tax credits sustained a lot of shitty businesses.
The solar industry is not "fledgling" like certain companies and lobbies keep saying. It has been around since the 70s, but suddenly became profitable when the state and federal government were picking up 80% of the tab for select individuals. Then, the companies tried to force the state into paying for rented systems, with companies suckering people into signing away their tax credits with awful contracts devoid of sunset clauses.
90% of the Louisiana solar industry can get fricked. Bunch of damn grifters. Now, there are some honest groups out there, but the tax credits sustained a lot of shitty businesses.
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