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re: Looting and arson breaks out in Minneapolis after protests turn violent
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:57 am to The Spleen
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:57 am to The Spleen
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Riots have been part of American culture since our founding
And not one of them has had any real impact on policies of police departments or government.
Riots are a reaction and I understand it is about anger boiling over, but it seems that anger could be pointed in another direction to do something productive. It does nothing but cause more useless pain and suffering.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:57 am to GetCocky11
So have any of the arresting officers (particularly the one who left his knee on the guy's neck) been arrested, charged, etc.? I know they were fired. But if their lack of arrest or charge is feeding fuel to the fire, that'd probably be a good place to start.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:58 am to GetCocky11
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Looting and arson breaks out in Minneapolis after protests turn violent
Why am i not shocked?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:58 am to The Spleen
Here's the thing, while I would not agree with it or condone it. I could understand if they were just destroying police property such as patrol cars or trying to cause damage to the station.
But wtf is the logic for destroying fricking Target and AutoZone. They have absolutely zero to do with this. They don't set police policy or protocol. They didn't hire the cops, nor did they fire them. They do not have the power to make sure the cops get arrested, and charged. They didn't come out as a company and say " George Floyd deserved to die, and the officers are all innocent" So again I ask, what is the logic for destroying businesses and property that is not at all related to the original tragedy.
But wtf is the logic for destroying fricking Target and AutoZone. They have absolutely zero to do with this. They don't set police policy or protocol. They didn't hire the cops, nor did they fire them. They do not have the power to make sure the cops get arrested, and charged. They didn't come out as a company and say " George Floyd deserved to die, and the officers are all innocent" So again I ask, what is the logic for destroying businesses and property that is not at all related to the original tragedy.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:00 am to QJenk
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So again I ask, what is the logic for destroying businesses and property that is not at all related to the original tragedy.
Free shite.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:05 am to QJenk
quote:it's not logic. There is anger (justifiable here) combined with mob mentality. It doesn't take much to push that energy in a bad direction.
But wtf is the logic for destroying fricking Target and AutoZone
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:07 am to The Spleen
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I do think it's fairly safe to say that most white guys being detained and behaving like Floyd would not have ended up dead.
You have absolutely no evidence to substantiate this claim.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:07 am to QJenk
The city should be forced to pay for any stores damaged or destroyed.
That shouldn't be on insurance.
That shouldn't be on insurance.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:07 am to GetCocky11
I have a few close friends, from Nola who work for Minneapolis Fire Dept now. I hope all these pieces of shite burning shite down, promoting violence and hate, burn alive. I have zero sympathy anymore for any of these pieces of shite. One of them will be the next person killed by a cop that everyone puts up on a pedestal as if they were some model citizen. frick’em.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:08 am to The Spleen
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Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:14 am to The Spleen
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The Spleen
It's amazing to me this country was doing so well and getting close to ending public problems with racism and sexism and instead of celebrating the progress we've made and the freedom we enjoy some diabolical genius invented the "privilege" and "my truth" movement that literally makes race and sex relations impossible.
You can't even talk to a person of a diffent race or gender anymore. Even if you're exactly equal it doesn't matter because of some "privilege" that makes you unequal and that privilege must be acknowledged constantly so as not to realize how equal we actually are in this country.
We took 150 years to slowly claw tooth and nail to develop the most free and most equal society in human history and in the last decade we took a rocket jet pack backwards for no reason other than forced political division driven by a hyper partisan media and unified against us citizens government.
Your thoughts?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:24 am to Breesus
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It's amazing to me this country was doing so well and getting close to ending public problems with racism and sexism
This country was never close to ending either of these. It's impossible to eliminate them because prejudiced thoughts are an inherent human trait.
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You can't even talk to a person of a diffent race or gender anymore.
Maybe you can't because your white fragility prevents it, but I have no problem talking to black people, women, Hispanic people, gay people, trans people, whatever.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:25 am to Breesus
quote:Agree with the rest of your post but this is completely false.
You can't even talk to a person of a diffent race or gender anymore. Even if you're exactly equal it doesn't matter because of some "privilege" that makes you unequal and that privilege must be acknowledged constantly so as not to realize how equal we actually are in this country.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:25 am to Breesus
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You can't even talk to a person of a diffent race or gender anymore.
Wut
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:27 am to Breesus
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You can't even talk to a person of a diffent race or gender anymore.
some of y'all are losing grip on reality
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:27 am to Breesus
I've never had someone use any of that SJW bullshite with me. Then again I don't live in liberal looney land either.
The proper response to any of that nonsense is to laugh in their face and tell them to frick off.
The proper response to any of that nonsense is to laugh in their face and tell them to frick off.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:28 am to QJenk
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I too was saddened by that killing. But wtf is burning down buildings and looting businesses gonna change. They are destroying their own communities. You are doing nothing but pissing people off, which will also solve nothing.
You think the majority of these rioters give one shite about George Floyd? They just used it as an excuse to loot and act like an animal.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:30 am to Breesus
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You can't even talk to a person of a diffent race or gender anymore.
If Joe Biden can speak with confidence to a woman or a black man, you can too.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:30 am to IAmNERD
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And not one of them has had any real impact on policies of police departments or government.
Riots are a reaction and I understand it is about anger boiling over, but it seems that anger could be pointed in another direction to do something productive. It does nothing but cause more useless pain and suffering.
I’d say they may have impact bringing issues forward in ways that can’t be ignored
But in this case, admittedly I haven’t followed CLOSE, but it seems with the department dismissing the officers, mayor calling for charges etc... it doesn’t seem like this is a message that needs to be sent in this manner this time. Granted I may be missing facts along the way so grain of salt on that opinion
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:31 am to QJenk
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But wtf is the logic for destroying fricking Target and AutoZone. They have absolutely zero to do with this. They don't set police policy or protocol. They didn't hire the cops, nor did they fire them. They do not have the power to make sure the cops get arrested, and charged.
I was going through Twitter this morning and came across some of the justification for it. I can't find it right now, but I'll paraphrase what I remember reading: they were saying " police departments and government organizations are part of the capitalist machine that exploits poc. So places like target are corporations and the police are only here to protect corporations and capital. Police protect capital. Police don't protect people. So if you can get rid of cornerstones of capitalism, you won't need the racist police."
So it has somehow morphed from anger over an unjustified killing by the police to taking down the capitalist system to presumably put in some kind of socialist utopian society where there are no police to enforce laws (presuming there are any laws in this new society).
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