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re: Lets learn something about space

Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by spaceranger
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:06 pm to
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How do we know anything about anything if we can’t physically measure it?


well we cant physically reach our arm out and use a tape measure, but telescopes allow us to see reallllly far away, deep into space. A lot of what we know comes from the light that gets reflected back to us. You can use the light to determine how far away something is, how big it is, and if something is orbiting it. You can tell an objects mass by watching how other things around it interact with it. We've experimented with the elements here on earth enough to know how they interact with each other, so if we see certain behavior, we can guess that a planet is made up of a certain element or contains a certain atmosphere.

But for the most part, it is guessing. There could, and most likely are, elements that we havent discovered. Physics/astrophysics theories change every day and there are new discoveries every day. If we knew everything about it, there wouldnt be any more books or articles or studies about it because it would be done. But the fact that there are so many publications coming out about it, to me, means that we dont know anything about it and are looking for answers.
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8750 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:35 pm to
Let's say this Spica fellow does explode, how long will it take for the explosion to reach us? Could we see this explosion reach us, with then naked eye, over a week or month?

If life were to end it would suck. But that would be seem gnarley arse shite to watch this thing in the sky get bigger and bigger.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10397 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 5:39 pm to
Groovy. I like space. Thanks
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56225 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:00 pm to
What is the chance of us, sometime in our lifetimes, seeing a Supernova bright and close enough to see at noon?

That's one of the things that I have always wanted out of life.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56225 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:01 pm to
When I was in Sixth Grade we had a girl in our class whose nose was so big you could see it from space. At least that's how rumor had it.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10857 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:02 pm to
At least you didn’t say you were going to “learn me” something.
Posted by weadjust
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by spaceranger
Member since Jan 2017
1627 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 6:21 pm to
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Could we see this explosion reach us, with then naked eye, over a week or month?


If you were looking at it with the naked eye, it wouldnt be until 250 years after the explosion that you would know about it. a light year is the distance light travels in a year (approx 6 trilion miles). so, with the star being 250 light years away, it would take 250 years from the time the explosion happened for us to see. but even then, all the naked eye would see is the star blinking some and then disappearing
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 6:26 pm
Posted by dawgsjw
Member since Dec 2012
2114 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:02 pm to
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Pretty cool that atoms heavier than iron are made in supernova explosions. So, atoms in our body... in everything we see was once part of a star that blew up.
To take this to the next level, everything that is or will be, came from the original ingredients that was squirted out in the big bang. Now the bigger question is what was the original 'thing' that the big bang exploded from?
Posted by dawgsjw
Member since Dec 2012
2114 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:05 pm to
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So, to say that we are rare is pretty stupid, considering we are made up of the most common things in the universe
It is funny that the non believers of aliens want to ignore the biggest example of life existing in the universe, and that is Earth. To them humans and the planet Earth is an anomaly and can't be used as evidence to life existing in the universe. Not to mention the fact that dinosaurs have ruled this planet longer than humans.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:19 pm to
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It is funny that the non believers of aliens want to ignore the biggest example of life existing in the universe, and that is Earth. To them humans and the planet Earth is an anomaly and can't be used as evidence to life existing in the universe.


Huh? Just about any astronomer believes alien life is somewhere out there, maybe even intelligent life. The problem is that it's so far away we may never know for sure.

The odds that aliens are already here secretly abducting us for medical experiments is right around zero.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:37 pm to
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I guess my number one question would be: How do we (as a civilization) know what we know about things going on in the universe? I mean, it’s not like we have the ability to physically measure things.


Mostly we study the electromagnetic radiation from these objects. That includes pretty much the entire spectrum - x-rays, gamma rays, radio waves, infrared, "millimeter wave", and of course, visual light.

There are numerous tools we can use but two big ones are spectral analysis and the Doppler effect. Spectral analysis basically involves splitting an object's light into a spectrum, sort of like using a prism to break a light beam into its component colors. It turns out that specific elements emit light in very specific frequencies, so if we see those emission lines in the spectrum we know that element is present. The Doppler effect tells us an object's speed toward or away from us, by shifting those lines up or down.

Here's another one. You know how a hot object glows red and then gets whiter as it gets hotter? Stars do that too, and the relationship between color and temperature is well known. So just by looking at a star we can tell what its temperature is. Google "blackbody radiation" to learn more.

My favorite is Cepheid variable stars - someone figured out that these stars shine with very predictable luminosities. Since they appear dimmer to us with distance, that means we can tell how far away they are by comparing what we see vs. how much light they really emit.

There's lots and lots of tools like that, too many to list.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
19493 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:41 pm to
We don't know shite about space and the universe. We are just like the folks in midieval times. Folks 300 years from now will be making fun of us.
Posted by Paradiddler
in a groove
Member since Jul 2016
1320 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 7:52 pm to
Are you Rocky Jones, space ranger? Hopefully not just Winky or Bobby. I like Cleolanta's boobs. Are they real or was it some crazy space surgery?
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
20416 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 8:22 pm to
I love this stuff and agree 100% that there is other life out there somewhere. What cracks me up is the idea that other life forms have the technology to fly their saucer across the universe but when they get to Earth they always seem to crash land. If they can get here, I am betting they could land.

My biggest question though, and all I want to know, is what is at the end of space? It can’t be infinite. What is at the end?
Posted by gingerkittie
Member since Aug 2013
2675 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 9:25 pm to
Ok, that was all pretty damn awesome. You would have had my first graders enraptured with all of that.

I loved telling them all of kinds of cool things to find what they really liked and what they retained and comprehended.

So after a talk about space (including how very far it is from us and how hot it is) I asked them why can't we go land on the sun.

One kid piped up " Cuz it's too pointy, it has all them pointy things on it".

He was thinking of the way all kids draw the sun with all the points on it, lol.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70143 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:02 pm to
You smoke a lot of weed I bet
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
70143 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:03 pm to
It is
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5923 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:06 pm to
Who would downvote this? 2 people hate space?
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
37017 posts
Posted on 12/28/17 at 10:11 pm to
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This makes their mutual gravity so strong that it actually distorts each star into an egg shape, rather than spherical.


Surely you meant to say flat, right?
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