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re: Legacy of the British Empire
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:05 am to SECSolomonGrundy
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:05 am to SECSolomonGrundy
Legacy of the British Empire is IPA's.
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Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:06 am to SECSolomonGrundy
If we've learned anything from the Brits and the Romans, it's that diversity is NOT a strength.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:20 am to YouKnowImRight
Maybe.....but more along the lines of Empire is costly and is quite the pain in the arse to keep up.....especially overseas empire.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:21 am to SECSolomonGrundy
Winston Churchill said after seeing the US moving North that he was both sad and excited the allies will win the war. Excited because they defeated the Germans but sad because the British Empire will cease being a world power now and forever.
United States GOAT
United States GOAT
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:32 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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What was their greatest achievement?
The laissez faire environment they cultivated in North America that led to a rapidly growing and successful society.
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What was their biggest folly?
Fumbling the bag with that society all because they wanted to squeeze more money out of them and stop them from growing.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:45 am to SpotCheckBilly
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They didn't stop slavery, they stopped the trans-Atlantic slave trade
They did much more than that.
They stopped it in most of Africa and used economic and military pressure to end it in the Islamic world.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:55 am to SECSolomonGrundy
Britain was definitely new Rome. Europe's place as a world power owes much of its success to the organization and trade structure brought in by the Romans. Most of the most successful non-Euro countries today were once British colonies.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 11:25 am to Locoguan0
Interesting topic and some well informed people contributing. 
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to TDPosted on 11/13/23 at 11:36 am to LB84
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The laissez faire environment they cultivated in North America that led to a rapidly growing and successful society.
Im not sure we can give the British Empire the credit for developing American society.
Ive long thought the vastness of the land itself, along with the rebel nature of a lot of the early settlers in the wilderness created the American spirit.
Plus you add the influence of french and spanish settlers. The French in particular hated everything about the Brits at the time.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:03 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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I've been reading up on the 19th century British empire and through WW2.
Related to current world events if the British hadn't promised the same patch of land to both the Bedouins and the Jews to get them to help the British fight the Turks in WWI it would be less likely the Middle East would be in turmoil, or at least the exact turmoil, currently.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 1:24 pm to Obtuse1
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if the British hadn't promised the same patch of land to both the Bedouins and the Jews to get them to help the British fight the Turks in WWI it would be less likely the Middle East would be in turmoil
For sure. The Brits double crossed Hussein. And he was real salty about it.
But Balfour and Milner were in tight with Rothschild.
This post was edited on 11/13/23 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 11/13/23 at 2:03 pm to LB84
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What was their biggest folly?
Immigration.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:03 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Their biggest folly was arrogance. The policy of "Make The World England" was pure arrogance. Anytime you start with the idea that your king was made king by divine right, your country will eventually fail.
Born from this was their greatest contribution to civilization, The Magna Carta. A document limiting the power of the king.
Born from this was their greatest contribution to civilization, The Magna Carta. A document limiting the power of the king.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:19 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Anyone that eats beans for breakfast or a bunch of rank fruit loops
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:28 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
quote:Take a look at the history of the Middle East since the start of the 20th century. How they drew countries with very little consideration of "who lived where" is a big part of 21st century instability. They have done both good and bad but their hubris in drawing those lines is their most enduring legacy.
I've been reading up on the 19th century British empire and through WW2. It seems a very mixed bag of good and bad.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:30 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
“British South Africa Company.”
Thanks for the slaves you left here. It’s doing america really well.
Thanks for the slaves you left here. It’s doing america really well.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:45 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
To Rule the Waves
A history of the Royal Navy. Fantastic
A history of the Royal Navy. Fantastic
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:08 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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What was their biggest folly?
The creation of the modern state of Israel, turning it back into THE global flashpoint has done the world no favors.
The Brits had a penchant for creating and maintaining divisions they could exploit later but that one will keep blood flowing for the foreseeable future.
Posted on 11/13/23 at 10:58 pm to G Khan
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Interesting topic and some well informed people contributing. to TD
I agree. THIS is why I come to the OT.
Posted on 11/14/23 at 6:50 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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Ive never heard of that. I have heard of ancient cultures that would burn the spouses and concubines of their leaders when they died
If I recall the story correctly, local leaders told the British commander this was their culture and they were not to interfere. The British commander responded with something along the lines of and my culture will ensure than any man participating in such activities will hang at dawn. Needless to say, that was the end of that beautiful cultural element.
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