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re: Lawmakers won't commit to $90M Superdome renovation deal

Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:16 pm to
Texas smells like hot sweaty Mexicans
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:17 pm to
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Do they take hard bids from GCs subs etc? That would be smart.


From subs, yes. Broadmoor is essentially the GC however they assist with design to get to a guaranteed maximum price and they’re on the hook for the work for that price.

They win the job before the subs provide bids based on their past performance and fee structure. Subs are brought on after they’re under contract.

Most large public projects are done this way
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:19 pm to
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The answer is easy. Stop caring about professional athletes that don’t give a frick about you. They are an elite class. They take up entirely too much of your headspace.


Yeah, check my post history for sports before assuming that. If you don’t think sports though, consumes males in the US in general you don’t pay attention to LSU.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:20 pm to
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Texas smells like hot sweaty Mexicans


people pay good money for that with queso
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:21 pm to
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Texas smells like hot sweaty Mexicans

people pay good money for that with queso


Who notices after several prickly pear margaritas anyway?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:22 pm to
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Who owns the stadium and land?


The state
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:24 pm to
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But that economic impact applies to the city not the state. So let Teedy fund it if New Orleans wants to keep the Saints there.




Not only that but:

1. I never got a revenue check for the previous super bowls that were hosted.
2. Economic impact is an inflated number that shouldn't be compared to direct funding.
3. You can air drop $90m in loose $100 bills all over New Orleans and generate an "economic impact" that is more than $90m. Does that mean it was a good investment?
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:24 pm to
08, peeps in this thread.
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:28 pm to
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1. I never got a revenue check for the previous super bowls that were hosted.


Why would you?

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2. Economic impact is an inflated number that shouldn't be compared to direct funding.


Link? You don’t think there are business in Nola, Hotels, restaurants, etc

quote:

You can air drop $90m in loose $100 bills all over New Orleans and generate an "economic impact" that is more than $90m. Does that mean it was a good investment?


Makes no sense

Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:30 pm to
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The state
so the state owns the land and stadium structure.

The owner of the team leases the land and stadium from the state?
Posted by Lee Chatelain
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:34 pm to
Good. The state shouldn’t do shite for them.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:34 pm to
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The owner of the team leases the land and stadium from the state?


Yup
Posted by DallasTiger
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:36 pm to
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A contract for the next phases of the construction work "cannot be signed without some certainty on a revenue stream," said Commissioner of Administration Jay Dardenne, the governor's chief budget adviser.


The corruption associated with the never ending renovations to the Superdome has been a decades long atrocity benefitting a small group of incompetent private sector grifters and bribed politicians. It's quintessential Louisiana.
This post was edited on 10/22/21 at 5:20 am
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
89917 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:37 pm to
Corruption starts in Washington DC and makes its way across the US

frick Joe Biden
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
36041 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:41 pm to
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quote:
The owner of the team leases the land and stadium from the state?


Yup

I don’t believe the Saints pay any rent.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:43 pm to
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I don’t believe the Saints pay any rent.

Well, for a long time Mr. Benson leased some of his buildings downtown to the state for their offices in NOLA. Not sure if the state paid either
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:44 pm to
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You can air drop $90m in loose $100 bills all over New Orleans and generate an "economic impact" that is more than $90m. Does that mean it was a good investment?


Makes no sense
simple trickle-down economics,, hense the pee smell
This post was edited on 10/22/21 at 8:52 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36041 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:49 pm to
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Well, for a long time Mr. Benson leased some of his buildings downtown to the state for their offices in NOLA. Not sure if the state paid either


I believe that Benson bought the complex next to the Dome and fixed it up post Katrina. The state made it viable by guaranteeing that they would rent thousands of square feet from Benson slightly over the going rate for class A office space.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 10:21 pm to
The state pays 32% more than the market rates for the offices in Benson towers.

On top of that, the Jindal administration strong-armed state agencies into leasing space they didn't need so it's even more inflated. Some are still in the office building even though they don't want to be. That deal should have been illegal.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 10:22 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 10/21/21 at 10:30 pm to
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The state pays 32% more than the market rates for the offices in Benson towers. On top of that, the Jindal administration strong-armed state agencies into leasing space they didn't need so it's even more inflated. Some are still in the office building even though they don't want to be. That deal should have been illegal.


The state is being held hostage because no politician wants to be the one who lost the saints.

The price will keep going up. One day we will have to face the reality that this city and this state can’t support a NFL team.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 10:32 pm
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