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re: Law proposed to require unanimous decision for felonies
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:33 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:33 am to SlowFlowPro
Prolly will manipulate selection standards to even it out.
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:34 am to LSUFanHouston
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I think a conservative court is very unlikely to throw out a century old state constitutional provision that only impacts one or two states.
SCOTUS denied writs on the issue this past fall
I think the main reason they deny them though is because if the SCOTUS rules that a non-unanimous verdict is unconstitutional it would release THOUSANDS of offenders from jail
just imagine the turmoil
That's why it has to be done by vote
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:34 am to SlowFlowPro
If the rest of y'all lawyers walked with Jesus like Gordon McKernan the profession would be much less slimy
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:36 am to el Gaucho
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If the rest of y'all lawyers walked with Jesus like Gordon McKernan the profession would be much less slimy
I believe I had a case with a defendant named Jesus
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:38 am to LSUFanHouston
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LA is THE ONLY STATE that allows non-unanimous jury verdicts in murder trials.
LA has the highest incarceration rate in the country.
LA is one of the poorest states, high crime rate, low education in the country - if we are not the highest in each of those categories, we are damn close.
There is absolutely nothing - nothing - about LA's criminal justice system that works so well that we should be doing it differently from 48/49 other states.
Came here to pretty much say this.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:40 am to MLCLyons
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Why is Louisiana so special?
same reason you need a licence to open a flower shop
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:40 am to Ash Williams
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That's why it has to be done by vote
I assume a vote would only affect cases on a go-forward basis?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:44 am to LSUFanHouston
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I assume a vote would only affect cases on a go-forward basis?
right
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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has nothing to do with a discussion on criminal law
And everything to do with attorney's ethics.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:57 am to doubleb
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And everything to do with attorney's ethics.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:31 pm to SlowFlowPro
I was just pointing out how criminal defense attorneys have forsaken a life of leisure and gotten into criminal defense when they could have become plaintiff attorneys and stuck to civil court.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:05 pm to Areddishfish
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Everyone deserves due process. However, requiring unanimous agreement among jurors, in such a diverse demographic, is a dangerous precedent. Thankfully, it will go to a statewide vote if passed. This would mean that one juror can essentially control the whole verdict.
you might feel differently if you were accused of a crime that you didn't commit.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:11 pm to Stevo
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you might feel differently if you were accused of a crime that you didn't commit.
Simple solution is to not break the law, or taking it a step further, hang around people with records. Kind of hard to be accused of a crime you didn't commit if you abide by that criteria.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:31 pm to Areddishfish
quote:so dangerous that 48 states do so...
However, requiring unanimous agreement among jurors, in such a diverse demographic, is a dangerous precedent.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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When Oregon was granted statehood in 1859, it was the only state in the Union admitted with a constitution that forbade black people from living, working, or owning property there. It was illegal for black people even to move to the state until 1926. Oregon’s founding is part of the forgotten history of racism in the American west.
Well that's interesting. Anyway, they are currently to my understanding very "progressive."
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