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re: Law proposed to require unanimous decision for felonies
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:57 am to LSURussian
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:57 am to LSURussian
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So a defense attorney who has to go through 2 or 3 retrials only charges the defendant to represent him for one trial??
well many criminal defense attorneys do flat fees
but
they'd charge more fees for sure, just not billable perhaps
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:58 am to LSURussian
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So a defense attorney who has to go through 2 or 3 retrials only charges the defendant to represent him for one trial??
No. But you brought up billable hours.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:58 am to JamesLang
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Neither criminal defense attorneys or prosecutors bill by the hour.
and 9/10 criminal defendants in LA are represented by the public defender
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:58 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:But more trials means it becomes the lawyer full-employment act.
PDOs) and the cost doesn't increase. they're drawing salaries regardless
Just stop. Your argument is ridiculous.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:59 am to JamesLang
quote:So charging more for an additional trial is not charging for the additional time the defense lawyer must spend working the case?
No. But you brought up billable hours.
You must be a lawyer to try and stretch logic like that.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:00 am to LSURussian
quote:
But more trials means it becomes the lawyer full-employment act.
well they're going to be there regardless
quote:
Just stop. Your argument is ridiculous.
i was just saying that in the vast (and i mean VAST) majority of cases, there won't be more fees
the DA is a salaried employee who is there if he had 1 or 100 cases that day
the PDO in LA handles some insane % of cases, like 75% plus. i think here it's 90%+
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:00 am to SlowFlowPro
I say 12-0 to convict, without question...but what's required for acquittal? At worst 9-3 if not less, I would hope.
Counselor?
Counselor?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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and a 11-1 doesn't mean acquittal. it just means a hung jury and the Defendant still faces prosecution
TBH, while you're obviously going to have a few more hung juries, I think the real result of changing this would just mean longer jury selection and longer deliberations
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:02 am to Ash Williams
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TBH, while you're obviously going to have a few more hung juries, I think the real result of changing this would just mean longer jury selection and longer deliberations
and more plea deals, ie, saving costs long term
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:02 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Okay, get back to me when all lawyers charge a flat, set amount no matter how many times they have to go through a trial for a defendant.
they'd charge more fees for sure, just not billable perhaps
You lawyers have the most obvious conflict of interest in the world yet you keep pretending it doesn't exist.
It's the reason why 99% of lawyers give the other 1% a bad reputation....
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:03 am to SlowFlowPro
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and more plea deals, ie, saving costs long term
troof
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:05 am to Ash Williams
I just can't imagine my fate in the hands of avg. Americans...given the avg IQ...which in this example is reduced to the bottom 1/3: those too dumb to get excused.
I would be praying for the professional who took time off in the interest of justice.
Hell yes it better be unanimous.
I would be praying for the professional who took time off in the interest of justice.
Hell yes it better be unanimous.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:05 am to LSURussian
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You lawyers have the most obvious conflict of interest in the world yet you keep pretending it doesn't exist.
i agree with you here
i was just explaining their point with the comments you quoted above. it's a semantic argument. i was just trying to clarify
quote:
It's the reason why 99% of lawyers give the other 1% a bad reputation....
hey man i agree. the greed and manipulation of attorneys is how i found my niche. it's +EV to know how to play off this
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:More criminal trials means MORE fees to lawyers, even if it means the additional fees result from taxpayers having to pay for hiring more public defenders.
i was just saying that in the vast (and i mean VAST) majority of cases, there won't be more fees
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:06 am to SlowFlowPro
let me also be clear, the last jury trial i did (which was almost a year ago) resulted in me not being paid my reduced fee agreed to after the trial 
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:06 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:My point was and is clear.
it's a semantic argument. i was just trying to clarify
Screw your semantics.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:07 am to LSURussian
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taxpayers having to pay for hiring more public defenders.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
What vote is required for acquittal vs hung jury?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:08 am to SlowFlowPro
Why is that funny? There is frequent news articles about how underfunded various public defender offices are. What does that mean? It means there will be increased demand for additional money for public defenders.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:10 am to SlowFlowPro
I love that you still use that gif and no one else stole it from you.
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