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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61754 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:07 pm to
LOL
You are hopeless
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2841 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:13 pm to
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The territory doesn’t matter, putting your flag on a spit of dirt doesn’t matter,

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46574 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:15 pm to
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The territory doesn’t matter, putting your flag on a spit of dirt doesn’t matter, the destruction of the enemies army does, and they can do that in the Donbas.


They can do that in Kyiv. They can do that in Kharkiv.

Where else can they do that in next?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:16 pm to
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He can be annoying, but at least he's not a Putin cheerleader gloating over Ukrainian deaths.



No but the I just checked the PT board and it looks like it has jerked off Putin 4200 times today over Russia securing Mariupol.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:17 pm to
AZOV destroyed Wagner, strait up killed them.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46574 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:19 pm to
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No but the I just checked the PT board and it looks like it has jerked off Putin 4200 times today over Russia securing Mariupol.


The celebration over there over Mariupol is one of the most disgusting things I've seen on this forum.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:21 pm to
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Russia's twilight attacks have left Ukraine in dire need of strike and night vision drones to launch counterattacks, said a spokesperson for Raytheon.


quote:

Mo Jeaux


Ask me how I know that you did not buy stock in Raytheon Technologies back in January and February?
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 6:22 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:25 pm to
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No but the I just checked the PT board and it looks like it has jerked off Putin 4200 times today over Russia securing Mariupol.


The celebration over there over Mariupol is one of the most disgusting things I've seen on this forum.



Guess you were not around for the Reggies girl thread back in the day. I wan not on here but I was at Reggies that night and see it live.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:27 pm to
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AZOV destroyed Wagner, strait up killed them.


Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:27 pm to
When plan A failed, they changed strategies. They pulled back from Kiev, and they abandoned Kharkov. And they redeployed those units to the Donbas. And they’re using that concentration of force, and advantage in firepower, to inflict lopsided casualties on the Ukrainians.

The Russian leadership isn’t being sentimental, they’re being practical.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 6:29 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42817 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:28 pm to
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The territory doesn’t matter, putting your flag on a spit of dirt doesn’t matter, the destruction of the enemies army does, and they can do that in the Donbas.


The Ukrainian army was in Kharkov. The Russians challenged them and were severely beaten. They didn’t choose to retreat to fight another day, they were forced to retreat and regroup.

And yes, they can win the war starting in the Donbas. There’s no question about that, but right now they aren’t making a lot of progress.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:29 pm to
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Sure. The Russians abandoned Kharkov, and concentrated their forces in the Donbas.



Abandoned? Are you on Russia's payroll or just downright stupid? Russia was systematically driven away from Kharkiv village by village until its forces were FORCED back across the border.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38265 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:29 pm to
So LW, you are admitting Russia failed in Kharkiv then?
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 6:42 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:30 pm to
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When plan A failed, they changed strategies. They pulled back from Kiev, and they abandoned Kharkov. And they redeployed those units to the Donbas. And they’re using that concentration of force, and advantage in firepower, to inflict lopsided casualties on the Ukrainians.

The Russian leadership isn’t being sentimental, they’re being practical.


Plan A failed back around February 26th. Russia is now on plan T.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8698 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:32 pm to
If the territory didnt matter then what is the point of Russia invading? They want the territory. Putin wants the Soviet Union back he’s delusional. I’m against us spending abroad so much with the country in such shite shape thanks to the old guy with dementia in the White House but this is a special circumstance. Putin has done this and made Eastern and Nordic Europe feel unstable. When you invade a country that’s no small thing and the Russians under Putin are our enemy. If the Ukrainians are going to fight as hard as they have then you have to supply them. Wearing Russia’s military and economy down without spilling American blood you do that all day long. Nobody expected the Russian military to be such a shitshow but that’s what you get when you have no non commissioned officers and your junior commissioned officers are not allowed to do anything without high command’s orders. Our infantry is so well trained because we have good sergeants, lieutenants and captains who are all encouraged to lead.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46574 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:32 pm to
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When plan A failed, they changed strategies. They pulled back from Kiev, and they abandoned Kharkov. And they redeployed those units to the Donbas. And they’re using that concentration of force, and advantage in firepower, to inflict lopsided casualties on the Ukrainians.

The Russian leadership isn’t being sentimental, they’re being practical.



You tend to be more practical when you're getting your shite pushed in on all fronts.

Interesting how you completely ignore how the failed attempts at Kyiv and Kharkiv allow the Ukrainians to also change strategies.

ETA: My problem with you is not that you point out Ukrainian failures. Other posters on here do that as well. My problem is that you only point out Ukrainian failures, and completely ignore Russian failures.

That sends a message.
This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 6:36 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:34 pm to
Reality:





Lima Whiskey:

This post was edited on 5/17/22 at 6:37 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39825 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:35 pm to
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The Russian leadership isn’t being sentimental, they’re being practical.



At the strategic level, they are definitely being sentimental. Being practical is not pretending like the European Plain is a just an open door for some illusory invasion. The Russian elite have an antiquated view of the world, and unfortunately, time moves forward, not backward. Their long-term security situation is as poor as it has ever been. They will lose long-term in Ukraine. It's a quagmire that is impossible to win.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:36 pm to
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No, if he attacks a NATO state, then it's on. We don't have a major stake when it comes to Ukraine nor a moral obligation to protect it, unlike say Taiwan. Sorry, I just don't like war, especially one that can easily escalate to World War III.


We literally convinced Ukraine to give up their nukes, a significant number, in promise to protect them from what’s happening now. Had we just let them keep the nukes, assuming rational behavior on their part, this likely would not be happening to them now. We have a moral obligation to Ukraine as much as I hate that we’re spending so much money on it in ignorance of domestic issues. Ukraine also has a global impact.

You care too much about Taiwan relative to the rest of geopolitics.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45821 posts
Posted on 5/17/22 at 6:38 pm to
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We literally convinced Ukraine to give up their nukes, a significant number, in promise to protect them from what’s happening now. Had we just let them keep the nukes, assuming rational behavior on their part, this likely would not be happening to them now. We have a moral obligation to Ukraine as much as I hate that we’re spending so much money on it in ignorance of domestic issues. Ukraine also has a global impact.

You care too much about Taiwan relative to the rest of geopolitics.


50 roubles says OML couldn't find Taiwan on a map.

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