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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/29/22 at 6:07 am to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 4/29/22 at 6:07 am to
That shite from Russian state is wild with the host talking nukes being ok with dying is wild
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
2555 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 6:49 am to
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That shite from Russian state is wild with the host talking nukes being ok with dying is wild




Maybe these need to be taken out before Putin gets taken out!
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 7:04 am to
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I was told this was the magic number.


What do you mean by this? The number at which Putin throws in the towel? Tosses a nuke? Has a Parkinson’s fit?
Posted by Snazzmeister
IHTFP
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/29/22 at 7:14 am to
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The actual KIA numbers exceed Ukraine's estimates and coincide with what I’ve been told. North of 30k KIA 60k W 5-6 MPK so we are approaching 100000 off the board one way or another and at least 2 weeks ago I was told this was the magic number. I’m also interested in reports Russia seeks to bomb morgues/create accidental fires in Belarusian and Ukrainian refrigeration units. This is in an effort to keep a lid on numbers. Ukrainians took the hint and before burial have catalogued and tried to identify as many as possible through AI/ personal papers. Grim stuff. Ukies have also exhumed certain ranking RU officers personnel as part of exchange programs for live members of their military-current ratio is 3 dead for 1 live… in the case of generals it was 10 live Ukies for 1 dead general.


Do you have any sources you’d be willing to share?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 7:48 am to
Who is fired up to send $33 more billion to Ukraine and support Zelensky's government salaries and pensions?
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69681 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 7:53 am to
I emailed my rep about that since he was one of the people that signed this letter.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46628 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 7:56 am to
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Who is fired up to send $33 more billion to Ukraine and support Zelensky's government salaries and pensions?



Ya man! frick Zelensky for invading glorious mother Russia and her peaceful glorious leader Putin!

This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 7:57 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
69681 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:03 am to
He should have done a better job getting people to chill out in Donbas and honoring the Minsk II agreement. Did you ever see the video of him getting worked over when he went there? To his defense, he isn't really running the show.
LINK
This post was edited on 4/29/22 at 8:08 am
Posted by Dataisbeautiful
Member since Apr 2022
61 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:05 am to
Keep your bullshite in the politard board. It’s containment for a reason.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:18 am to
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Who is fired up to send $33 more billion to Ukraine and support Zelensky's government salaries and pensions?
im even more fired up about putting our head in the sand and just allowing Russia to directly control the military and government of any country it deems to have a nazi issue
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4700 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:42 am to
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emailed my rep about that since he was one of the people that signed this letter.


So a collapsing Ukraine narrative is that they have 1 group associated with Nazis?
A total non collapsing narrative is that Ukraine needs denazification from the Nazi Wagner group? Or is it they need protection from the US biolabs? Or is it they need protection from the West because Poland was totally gonna take over western Ukraine? Or is it that Ukraine was actually going to annex part of Russia? Or is it that Ukraine doesn't really exist and has always been part of Russia? Or is it whatever BS Russia gives for justification next because they don't really have a reason?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46628 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:44 am to
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To his defense, he isn't really running the show.


The amount of stupid in your post is rather impressive.
Posted by LSU_historian
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 4/29/22 at 8:49 am to
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This post was edited on 4/29/23 at 7:20 pm
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:10 am to
From what I have read the Ukrainian army is having a bad couple of days.
Posted by Snazzmeister
IHTFP
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:25 am to
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Or is it whatever BS Russia gives for justification next because they don't really have a reason?


Not disputing the rest of your post as we've obviously seen numerous contrived grievances used to justify the Russian invasion. However, I think it's a mistake to say that they don't have a reason. It's the same reason countries have invaded each other for millennia - geography, resources, and historical claims - the Realpolitik. Admission of this is a confession of aggression which the RU will obviously never do.
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
2841 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:33 am to
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The actual KIA numbers exceed Ukraine's estimates and coincide with what I’ve been told. North of 30k KIA 60k W 5-6 MPK so we are approaching 100000 off the board one way or another and at least 2 weeks ago I was told this was the magic number.


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Ukrainian sources are saying more than a thousand soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the National Guard are surrounded near the Oskol reservoir in the Kharkiv region with no escape options. This is terrible news but hopefully they find a way to break out.


To me these two quotes don't jive. If the Russian army was close to 100,000 off the board they would be close to collapsing and we just aren't seeing that.
Posted by nopants
Luling, La
Member since Aug 2006
893 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:42 am to
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From what I have read the Ukrainian army is having a bad couple of days.


any links? It sure feels like we get 99% cheerleading for either side in this conflict and maybe 1% of strategic / tactical maps, accurate progress updates etc.

How many times do we need to be reminded that the Glorious Victorious Sanctified and Holy Nation of Ukraine™ is the ultimate good guy story and the Bumbling Stumbling Aggressive Evil Russians(who probably kick puppies too) are the baddies?

WE GET IT ok? - just would be nice to get more actual info than virtue signaling.

and yes, I understand the hypocrisy of me posting this without any useful info to add to the discussion, I am prepared for my serving of downvotes.

Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:42 am to
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30k KIA 60k W 5-6 MPK


Bout right, if anything the "missing" or unaccounted for number is way low.

One theory for the Kiev pullout is so many were walking off everyday they had to get them back in Russian territory to get control.
Posted by Palantir
I've been a Columbia House
Member since Oct 2020
691 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 9:57 am to
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How many times do we need to be reminded that the Glorious Victorious Sanctified and Holy Nation of Ukraine™ is the ultimate good guy story and the Bumbling Stumbling Aggressive Evil Russians(who probably kick puppies too) are the baddies?
I kind of like these stories TBH
Posted by Snazzmeister
IHTFP
Member since Jan 2015
1206 posts
Posted on 4/29/22 at 10:02 am to
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WE GET IT ok? - just would be nice to get more actual info than virtue signaling.


Amen. This thread has devolved into one-upmanship in posting the most pro-Ukrainian twitter or reddit rumor you can find.

Most of the information I've found are at the following places:

Telegram
Intel Slava Z (Pravda)
ANNA News (Pravda)
Z News (Pravda)
Ukraine Now (Pro-Ukr)

Reddit
r/ukraine (Pro-Ukr)
r/combatfootage (Neutral if you avoid comments)

ISW - Institute for the Study of War. Probably the best factual site out there.
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