re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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The sad thing is that if we hadn’t expanded NATO, Putin would have tirelessly devoted himself to world peace and the brotherhood of man.

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Tulsi Gabbard in the house!

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Warfox

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To add to your post. The precursor to much of this current crisis;

NATO Bucharest Summit Declaration - 2-4 April 2008

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23. NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO. Both nations have made valuable contributions to Alliance operations. We welcome the democratic reforms in Ukraine and Georgia and look forward to free and fair parliamentary elections in Georgia in May. MAP is the next step for Ukraine and Georgia on their direct way to membership. Today we make clear that we support these countries’ applications for MAP. Therefore we will now begin a period of intensive engagement with both at a high political level to address the questions still outstanding pertaining to their MAP applications. We have asked Foreign Ministers to make a first assessment of progress at their December 2008 meeting. Foreign Ministers have the authority to decide on the MAP applications of Ukraine and Georgia.

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Text of Putin’s speech at NATO Summit (Bucharest, April 2, 2008)

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But in Ukraine, one third are ethnic Russians. Out of forty five million people, in line with the official census, seventeen millions are Russians. There are regions, where only the Russian population lives, for instance, in the Crimea. 90% are Russians. Generally speaking, Ukraine is a very complicated state. Ukraine, in the form it currently exists, was created in the Soviet times, it received its territories from Poland – after the Second World war, from Czechoslovakia, from Romania – and at present not all the problems have been solved as yet in the border region with Romania in the Black Sea. Then, it received huge territories from Russia in the east and south of the country. It is a complicated state formation. If we introduce into it NATO problems, other problems, it may put the state on the verge of its existence. Complicated internal political problems are taking place there. We should act also very-very carefully. We do not have any right to veto, and, probably, we do not pretend to have. But I want that all of us, when deciding such issues, realize that we have there our interests as well. Well, seventeen million Russians currently live in Ukraine. Who may state that we do not have any interests there? South, the south of Ukraine, completely, there are only Russians.

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You are one crazy Putin fan boy lol. Literally everything you post is absolute bull and almost the opposite of reality. Starting to think it’s just a troll job

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Oh yea I'm sure Putin was shaking in his boots that Georgia (backed by us of course) was going to invade Russia first and had no choice but to invade preemptively instead. It couldn't have been an opportunistic land grab in the name of empire, not at all.

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It’s not about Georgia invading, it’s about us putting American boots, equipment, planes in yet another bordering nation. Why is this so hard to understand? Would you feel great if Mexico started allowing Russian troops, equipment, planes, and the like there? How about China? But to make it worse our goal has been the equivalent of Russia and China in BOTH Mexico and Canada. Maybe some back in Cuba.

Now think about how we reacted over just Cuba in the 60s.

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Would you feel great if Mexico started allowing Russian troops, equipment, planes, and the like there?

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I was waiting for this stupid fricking analogy to rear its head. A far more appropriate one would be, what if we had a history of unilaterally invading and conquering Latin American countries, those countries formed a mutual defense alliance in light of that history, mexico wanted to join that alliance, and then we claimed we felt “threatened” and invaded it preemptively.

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Now think about how we reacted over just Cuba in the 60s.

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You're really comparing Cuba, at the height of the Cold War, with Georgia in 2008? As if those are even close to the same circumstances.

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The video in the reply to that tweet is a bunch of Ukrainians pulling a man out of a completely smushed car and he looks awake and fine

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thanks much

I didn't even want to scroll down after that b/c I assumed it would just be more videos of people getting killed.

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The guy survived and was relatively stable. That’s absurd

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Now that is a surprise. Lucky dude

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I was waiting for this stupid fricking analogy to rear its head. A far more appropriate one would be, what if we had a history of unilaterally invading and conquering Latin American countries, those countries formed a mutual defense alliance in light of that history, mexico wanted to join that alliance, and then we claimed we felt “threatened” and invaded it preemptively.

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I suppose we’re going to ignore the Mexican-American war and US meddling in Latin America in the late 1800s-1900s?

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what if we had a history of unilaterally invading and conquering Latin American countries,

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