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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:32 pm to
@Osinttechnical
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Just saw the news of the attack on Kramatorsk railway station after I woke up, there are deeply disturbing images coming out. The station was being used as an evacuation center when it was hit by an OTR-21 Tochka. LINK


Russia, of course, says it is a Ukranian false flag and they don't even have those missiles. Yet, they've admitted having them and using them in training prior to the invasion.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:33 pm to
and the day before they bombed the only road so anyone wanting to leave had to go by train.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:35 pm to
Chernobyl workers talk about being under Russian occupation. The SUn is a tabloid but they've been doing some good reporting from Ukraine LINK
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:54 pm to
@JackDetsch
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NEW: Russia may try to conscript civilians forcibly deported from the besieged city of Mariupol to fight against Ukraine, a Ukrainian military official said on Friday.

The Russia-backed breakaway DPR could compel Mariupol citizens forcibly deported by Russia to fight.
Posted by dr90210
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:55 pm to
Let me humor the NPC's


https://www.google.com/maps/search/Kramatorsk,+Donetsk+Oblast,+train+station/@48.7256338,37.541037,234m/data=!3m1!1e3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://www.google.com/maps/search/Kramatorsk,+Donetsk+Oblast,+train+station/@48.7256338,37.541037,234m/data=!3m1!1e3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer"> https://www.google.com/maps/search/Kramatorsk,+Donetsk+Oblast,+train+station/@48.7256338,37.541037,234m/data=!3m1!1e3



Exact google maps location. You can correlate booster location and impact zone. It likely came from West South West or SouthWest where there are mostly Ukrainian forces.

Considering Ukraine primarily uses this missile, they need to have an investigation before "BREAKING NEWS" and blame one or the other.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:56 pm to
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The Russia-backed breakaway DPR could compel Mariupol citizens forcibly deported by Russia to fight.


I'm sure that will work well.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 1:58 pm to
oh great, another nosler alter
Posted by TitusCrow
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

oh great, another nosler alter

careful, you might end up in the "peanut gallery"
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:02 pm to
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careful, you might end up in the "peanut gallery"
Will there be updoots?
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:08 pm to
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Jeff Seldin @jseldin

NEW: US assesses #Russia did strike the train station in #Kramatorsk #Ukraine- "We are not buying the denial by the #Russians" per a senior US defense official


quote:

US blames the Kramatorsk bombing on Russia despite Russian denials. The attack was carried out using a Tochka-U, which Ukraine uses and Russia denies it still uses, but which has been observed being used by Russian forces as well. US notes that the rail station has strategic value as a major rail hub in the region.

Russia flying 240-250 sorties a day, overwhelming focus on the Donbas/Mariupol. Russia grouping up 10 BTGs (battalion tactical groups) in Northeastern Ukraine (probably Kharkiv/northern Luhansk). Russia now has 40 BTGs in the Donbas, and Wagner mercenaries make up another 1000 or so individuals in the area.

US unsure how long it will take for Russia to refit its units to deploy into the Donbas, says some units are much more devastated than others. US believes Russia still suffers from logistical issues for refit. Possibility that some conscripts will be added to BTGs, and some indications that Russia is preparing to mobilize 60K reservists to join the war.

US believes this war can last a long time.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:11 pm to
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Considering Ukraine primarily uses this missile, they need to have an investigation before "BREAKING NEWS" and blame one or the other.


You need some William of Ockham in your life son.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75758 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:12 pm to
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Considering Ukraine primarily uses this missile, they need to have an investigation before "BREAKING NEWS" and blame one or the other.

You're just going to ignore the fact that Russia uses the same missiles and that they have been proven to use them? You're just going to take their word on it?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:15 pm to
Uncle Vlad would never lie comrade!
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:17 pm to
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You're just going to ignore the fact that Russia uses the same missiles and that they have been proven to use them? You're just going to take their word on it?

Just ignore him. He just repeats Russian propaganda word for word and then disregards anything that paints Russia in a bad light as Ukrainian propaganda
Posted by LeClerc
USVI
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:19 pm to
I'm sure he's around somewhere...


Posted by dr90210
Member since Apr 2022
245 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:21 pm to
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Jeff Seldin @jseldin

NEW: US assesses #Russia did strike the train station in #Kramatorsk #Ukraine- "We are not buying the denial by the #Russians" per a senior US defense official


Clown world. I wouldn't believe a first thing US state department assesses. We had 50 CIA spooks "assess" Hunter's laptop was a "Russian disinformation". They have no credibility whatsoever. They never have, but they've been outed.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75758 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:22 pm to
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Clown world. I wouldn't believe a first thing US state department assesses. We had 50 CIA spooks "assess" Hunter's laptop was a "Russian disinformation". They have no credibility whatsoever. They never have, but they'v

Yet, you seem ready and willing to believe the Russian spooks.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:23 pm to
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You need some William of Ockham in your life son.


90210 prefers Vladimir's sickle, it curves around to point to the wrong conclusion.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99355 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:23 pm to
Russia taking massive casualties per Russia

Whats team Zs take on that?
Posted by dr90210
Member since Apr 2022
245 posts
Posted on 4/8/22 at 2:26 pm to
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Just ignore him.


Left's debate strategy 101. Ignore and sensor, so you're not exposed to information that may cause unpleasant symptoms of critical thinking.

I've been more than balanced and objective, but get ad hominen barrage in return.

quote:

Yet, you seem ready and willing to believe the Russian spooks.


Obviously not, but I believe my own critical thinking and what I'm seeing people report/videos/photos and other information that can be corroborated on several levels.

All I said is it is at very least unclear who fired a missile, and Brandon's state department is already ready to condemn Russia. Nothing stops the narrative.
This post was edited on 4/8/22 at 2:30 pm
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