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Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:20 pm to xxTIMMYxx
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Nah, we just aren’t eating up the massive lies being spread by the msm
So you're eating up the massive lies told by the alternative media. Gotcha... .
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:21 pm to Adam4LSU
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no such thing anymore. Only opinions
So how do you get your information to form your opinions?
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:21 pm to GumboPot
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The long term economic consequences of this war seem a bit dire for US dollar hegemony as the BRICS countries and Saudis migrate from SWIFT to CIPS on the yuan. Not good at all.
You’re not allowed to discuss these things baw. People think we’re the exception to historical norm in all respects, reserve currency status included.
I too find these developments interesting in this respect, but also think it will require some give from the Chinese on their currency manipulations.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:22 pm to xxTIMMYxx
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Nah, we just aren’t eating up the massive lies being spread by the msm and we also wonder how people could be so fricking stupid to actually believe anything they say after being caught lying to the American people non stop for years now. They supported a damn color revolution in our own country, tried to cover up their crimes that caused over 2 billion in damages. They endlessly lied about Covid. Now, the lies are even worse than both of those two about Ukraine. How can people be so stupid? I’m still trying to figure that out. Most of the country doesn’t trust the media at all, so you are in the minority of retarded people living in fantasy land. You could never survive a debate about any of these topics
So what is the media's angle in a war between an invading Russia and an independent Ukraine trying to defend itself?
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:22 pm to LegendInMyMind
For anybody:
Any updates from Belarus;
Did Russia default on their debt interest payment yesterday?
Any updates from Belarus;
Did Russia default on their debt interest payment yesterday?
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:22 pm to Vito Andolini
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Because Russians are human beings, and human beings are very good at learning lessons from adversity.
Are you saying that the Ukrainians cannot learn from adversity? If so then you need to look at the difference in the military response of Ukraine in 2014 compared to 2022.
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Since the mid 1800's, nation versus nation wars have basically been wars of attrition, and the Nation that is able to outproduce its adversary in men and material generally wins.
Vietnam vs the USA, Afghanistan vs the USSR, and Afghanistan vs the USA all disagree with your philosophy.
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Yeah, but that assumes the world is static and they don't have time to adapt and improve both their tactics and their equipment.
They have time to improve their equipment. However, you cannot modernize and fix a T72s vulnerabilities. Even with all the time in the world, the T72 ammo is still going to be stored around the ring of its turret behind the tank treads. That is means it is always going to be vulnerable to catastrophic explosions from a hit from ATGMs as well IEDs and mines. Russia has been trying to find a solution to that the ammo storage defect in the T-72 since 1991 and it has not found one yet. I doubt they find one now. Also Russia does not have the ability to produce computer chips in large enough numbers to modernize its reserve tanks and it definitely doesn't have the money to buy them.
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Again, so long as the Russian people are willing to endure some hardships
The Russian people are able to endure hardships, but the Putin regime will not be able to. The main reasons why the Russian people support Putin is because they believed he was leading Russia to economic prosperity and military strength. Getting bogged down in a war that is not being fought on your soil and an economic collapse is not going to be good for Putin. If Russia had been attacked then Russian people would mobilize with a fury and Putin would not have to worry. If Putin is forced into mobilizing Russia reserves for a "special military intervention in Ukraine" it will weaken Russian morale not strengthen it. Mobilization of the reserves would require Putin and his generals admitting that their vaunted Russian military cannot defeat the Ukrainian military which Russia has been portraying as weak and incompetent. That will be trouble for Putin. That is why Russia is hiring mercenaries and bringing in foreigners and basically doing everything he can to avoid mobilizing additional Russian troops.
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Mobilizing a Nation like Ukraine into a Country that can beat a much larger neighbor cannot be done in a month, especially when their industrial capacity is being degraded every day by the war.
Ukraine has roughly 11 million military age males available for mobilization. Ukraine also open supply lines to the factories of the USA and Europe and an open line of credit to the financial institutions of the USA and Europe as well.
The flaw in your argument is that you think that the west will lose interest before Russia collapses. However, unlike Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, Ukraine borders NATO. I highly doubt that Poland and the other central european members of NATO want Russia next door to them again so those NATO countries will not be losing interest in the conflict at all. Plus the european members of NATO are the ones having to deal with the refugees. Western media might lose interest in the war in a few weeks to months, but that does not mean the US government and/or NATO will not lose interest and Ukraine will have supplies and money from the west for the duration of the conflict.
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:24 pm to xxTIMMYxx
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xxTIMMYxx
I think we can all agree that HRC is a dumbarse and needs to shut up and go away.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:25 pm to LegendInMyMind
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This doesn't hold nearly as much weight as you believe it does when at the end of the day you're just choosing to buy-in fully to a different set of media that fits what you want to believe.
Thank you for being more succinct than me.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:33 pm to kjp811
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So how do you get your information to form your opinions?
Pick somewhere in the middle of what is told. Also understanding that humans are naturally selfish pieces of shite helps when forming these opinions
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:35 pm to kjp811
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Where do you get your news from?
they get all their news from substacks from people like "Patel Patriots" (look that one up for a laugh ) and from anonymous accounts on 4chan that claim to have top secret classification in the government. How did that turn out?
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:36 pm to LegendInMyMind
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This video may be the most complete destruction of Russian equipment I've seen since all this started
Can you post the video, it's age restricted and I canceled Twitter.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:38 pm to LegendInMyMind
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This video may be the most complete destruction of Russian equipment I've seen since all this started:
This one is better.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:41 pm to WeeWee
I need logistical answers on Western Europe's heating oil, and gasoline. When the USA attacked Iraq because Saudi Arabians attacked us, France signed contracts with Iraq to purchase petroleum, as fast as they could make those pens move.
1. How do they get this oil to France? Is there a pipeline network, or shipping, or what?
2.Does France share this crude with the rest of Europe, now that Russia has upset the balance of commerce, by going out wilding for a couple of months?
3. Canada produces a bunch of Extra crude, that we were building a pipeline to the US for, so we could purchase it. This was not completed, because of reasons. Is Canada selling their abundance to Europe?
1. How do they get this oil to France? Is there a pipeline network, or shipping, or what?
2.Does France share this crude with the rest of Europe, now that Russia has upset the balance of commerce, by going out wilding for a couple of months?
3. Canada produces a bunch of Extra crude, that we were building a pipeline to the US for, so we could purchase it. This was not completed, because of reasons. Is Canada selling their abundance to Europe?
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:46 pm to Lakeboy7
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Any updates from Belarus;
Not that I have heard.
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Did Russia default on their debt interest payment yesterday?
Russia claims to have made a payment, but Citi Bank which is the bank handling the bond says it has not received payment yet. Russia is saying that any delay in Cit Bank receiving the payment would because of sanctions, but the USA and EU are saying that payment of debts is not affected by the sanctions. Either way there is a 30 day grace period for the payment to reach Citi Bank before Russia defaults. If Citi Debt still has not received the payment at the end of the 30 days then Russia would be in default. So the short answer to your question is no Russia did not default on their debt payment yesterday.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:46 pm to WeeWee
That’s Vietnam music. Can’t we get our own music?
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:46 pm to Vito Andolini
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Again, so long as the Russian people are willing to endure some hardships, I think time is on the side of the Russians, not the Ukrainians.
Modern history doesn’t really put time on the side of the invading and occupying country. Russia needed a swift knock out of the the Ukrainian government. That didn’t happen, and now the West clearly sees a viable resistance to support.
Whether in a month, a year or 5 years it seems almost certain russian forces will eventually leave Ukraine with little gained. Whether that withdrawal includes crimea and the Donbas seems to be the unknown. But time is not in the side of the occupiers.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:51 pm to WeeWee
quote:Tank repo on TruTv is going to be wild
If Citi Debt still has not received the payment at the end of the 30 days then Russia would be in default.
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:52 pm to kjp811
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So how do you get your information to form your opinions?
1. Get as close to the source as possible. More often than not the source is not fake - it just gets interpreted in a biased manner in a game of telephone out to the mainstream media and the general public.
2. Related to 1: CHECK THE LANGUAGE used in the articles you read. Typically the more inflammatory, the more BS. If you have to tell me that this information is "Devastating" 15 times in your article, than odds are the information isn't really devastating if I just interpreted the facts outside of your description. You are attempting to emotionally manipulate me with your description.
3. Play with the numbers. If you see "1000% increase", convert to raw numbers, if you see "XXXX" people, convert to a percentage. Compare this to your priors to see if you think this is significant.
4. Find articles from BEFORE X incident happened to re-establish priors - the internet is a good respository.
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