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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:25 am to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:25 am to
Gonna need to upgrade that caller ID system:

@phildstewart
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(Reuters) - British defence minister Ben Wallace said an imposter claiming to be the Ukrainian prime minister contacted him on Thursday and asked several "misleading questions"

"He posed several misleading questions and after becoming suspicious I terminated the call"
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5997 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:25 am to
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Russian didn't defeat the germans. Weather and over stretched supplies coupled with Russians hurling themselves at the Germans like lemings over a cliff is what defeated The Reich.


The scoreboard still says Russians defeat Germans.

Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:29 am to
@phildstewart
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NOW - At the top of the meeting with Slovak defense officials, U.S. defense secretary Austin notes he's the first to visit Bratislava ... in 18 years. And he jokes that it won't take another 18 years for a @SecDef to visit


And then......
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Just checking my notes, and I'm pretty sure I was in Bratislava with then Secretary Gates for a NATO meeting in 2009. So...

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45781 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:30 am to
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The UK will deploy a Sky Sabre Air Defence System to Poland and 100 personnel to operate it.

This comes at the Polish Government's request.

Sky Sabre has unprecedented speed, accuracy, performance and target acquisition, which will significantly enhance Poland’s air defences.

LINK

Poland getting ready for Russian response after Poland gives the migs to Ukraine.
Posted by Vito Andolini
Member since Sep 2009
1879 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:35 am to
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If their active troops and officers have performed this poorly. What makes you think that the older reservists would make a difference? Those reservists got the exact same training as the active troops did. Why would they have better results than the active troops? Your attitude is the exact same attitude that world and military leaders had prior to WW1. That attitude let to lots of reservists becoming machine gun fodder.


Because Russians are human beings, and human beings are very good at learning lessons from adversity. The Soviet/Russian army performed very poorly in 1941, they learned and got better, and by 1945, they had perhaps the most powerful land army in human history. Their officers are learning lessons right now, and so long as the State is still able to give them resources (men and material) they will get better. Since the mid 1800's, nation versus nation wars have basically been wars of attrition, and the Nation that is able to outproduce its adversary in men and material generally wins.

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You also are forgetting that Russia has lots of tanks in reserve but they have not been modernized at all. They would be destroyed by the ATGMs assuming that those old Russian tanks would even crank.


Yeah, but that assumes the world is static and they don't have time to adapt and improve both their tactics and their equipment. Again, so long as the Russian people are willing to endure some hardships, I think time is on the side of the Russians, not the Ukrainians.

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Also you are forgetting that Ukraine have already started mobilization and have a month’s headstart in training its population for war.


Mobilizing a Nation like Ukraine into a Country that can beat a much larger neighbor cannot be done in a month, especially when their industrial capacity is being degraded every day by the war.

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Ukraine has also been invaded. Russia hasn’t. So the Ukrainians have more reasons to fight. If this war drags on then Russia risks having the war turn into another Afghanistan for them.


Agreed, I think the average Ukrainian soldier is more motivated right now than the average Russian soldier. How long will that last and will that be enough? That is the million dollar question right now.
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 11:39 am
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
47129 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:35 am to
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Whoa whoa whoa Ukrainians look like some of us.


There are a lot of Russians, Ukrainians, and Bulgarians living in central FL. The R's and U's look jut alike. The B's look Arab. Hopefully those Russkies in Orlando don't try to take over Kissimmee.

ETA: Hay-Zeus Tapdancing Christ. Why the frick are you downvote queers going after this post? Now, go on back to nob gobbling.
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 9:49 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:35 am to
This video may be the most complete destruction of Russian equipment I've seen since all this started:

@worldonalert
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There is nothing left of this Russian military convoy after a Ukrainian attack today. LINK
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:36 am to








Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46555 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:56 am to
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You are correct, it is not the same thing, but I use those examples from history to show that two of the greatest militaries from the 19th and 20th centuries were beaten by Russia and they were beaten because they underestimated Russia.


And once again, in both of those cases Russians were fighting for their homes and family.

That is simply not the case now.

Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3951 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 11:56 am to
The political board has a thread with those nut jobs losing their minds because we aren’t all praising Russian and we aren’t pretending the Russia military is a well oiled machine. They think anybody who even says that Russia is kinda having a hard time is brainwashed lol. The political board is almost the exact mirror image of Democratic Underground.
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 11:58 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
99057 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:04 pm to
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OGtigerfan87


Yes anyone who questions the esteemed scholars of the OT is a russian bootlicker

Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:10 pm to
Is it just me or is it super weird that the thing that appears to have upset Putin the most so far is the fact the Biden said he was a war criminal
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
1014 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:11 pm to
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Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
The political board has a thread with those nut jobs losing their minds because we aren’t all praising Russian and we aren’t pretending the Russia military is a well oiled machine. They think anybody who even says that Russia is kinda having a hard time is brainwashed lol. The political board is almost the exact mirror image of Democratic Underground.


If the political far-left and far-right in this country had their influence dramatically decreased, this country would be so much better off.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3208 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:13 pm to
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Yes anyone who questions the esteemed scholars of the OT is a russian bootlicker


A lot of those questions are along the lines of "Open your eyes, you're an idiot if you don't see that South Korea and Italy are teaming up to overthrow the EU"

...which, if that's your thesis you're going to need to explain a few things.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:14 pm to
Nah, we just aren’t eating up the massive lies being spread by the msm and we also wonder how people could be so fricking stupid to actually believe anything they say after being caught lying to the American people non stop for years now. They supported a damn color revolution in our own country, tried to cover up their crimes that caused over 2 billion in damages. They endlessly lied about Covid. Now, the lies are even worse than both of those two about Ukraine. How can people be so stupid? I’m still trying to figure that out. Most of the country doesn’t trust the media at all, so you are in the minority of retarded people living in fantasy land. You could never survive a debate about any of these topics
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:14 pm to
SDV doing work on the downvotes. Keep pecking away, baw, you'll show us all one day. I hope your condition improves.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:15 pm to
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Is it just me or is it super weird that the thing that appears to have upset Putin the most so far is the fact the Biden said he was a war criminal


If he’s a war criminal, we’ve got dozens of them, but we make the rules so it’s okay
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 12:16 pm
Posted by kjp811
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2017
1121 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:15 pm to
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Most of the country doesn’t trust the media at all, so you are in the minority of retarded people living in fantasy land.


Where do you get your news from?
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4693 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:16 pm to
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Open your eyes, you're an idiot if you don't see that South Korea and Italy are teaming up to overthrow the EU"


Wasn't there a poster several pages back that claimed South Korea China India and Pakistan were all 100% on board with "going against the West" as a pseudo alliance?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/17/22 at 12:17 pm to
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Most of the country doesn’t trust the media at all, so you are in the minority of retarded people living in fantasy land. You could never survive a debate about any of these topics

This doesn't hold nearly as much weight as you believe it does when at the end of the day you're just choosing to buy-in fully to a different set of media that fits what you want to believe.

Presenting yourself and your views here as superior doesn't mean you, or the media you choose to follow, are correct.

ETA: Not that I particularly give a shite about either "side" of this media war. I couldn't tell you the last time I watched a network news channel.
This post was edited on 3/17/22 at 12:19 pm
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