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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:35 am to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:35 am to
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I've got no experience so I've got to ask -- are the Russian losses of generals something to be expected from the situation,
It seems not ideal for the Russians
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:37 am to
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But three captured Russian air force pilots who spoke to CNN did not suggest they were speaking under duress.
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He looked bruised and very pale but spoke lucidly in the tone of a professional soldier.



It's horrendous reporting. They may or may not be compelled to speak, but our media blatantly biased toward the idea that they're not when captured in war time is a pretty bad indictment of the media class.

Posted by Lakeboy7
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:40 am to
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It seems not ideal for the Russians


Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:41 am to
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From Hu Xijin, Chinese State Media, which may as well be a statement from Xi Jinping himself:
Asshoe
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:42 am to
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If the US military with all of its technology and all of its training can make a mistake and blow up a hospital is it out of the realm that the Russian military could accidentally bomb a hospital? Seriously, which one makes more sense to you?

The only argument I have is the one I made yesterday. Russia has developed a pattern in this war of hitting hospitals and schools. They've hit multiples of both in multiple cities. Intentional? I don't know. Were the Ukes using them militarily? I don't know. That is at least worth the generic resolution to "investigate possible war crimes".

Did the US develope a pattern of regularly hitting hospitals and schools?
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 11:49 am
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:47 am to
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quote: This is specifically illegal under International Humanitarian Law. So yes, it is most certainly a war crime.

quote: Intentionally directing attacks against buildings dedicated to religion, education, art, science or charitable purposes, historic monuments, hospitals and places where the sick and wounded are collected, provided they are not military objectives; LINK

Thanks for the link. Not to put too fine a point on this - and we know Putin will never be seen in Den Hague - but the definition of a war crime by a commanding officer or leader is guided by what should have been done. "Failure to exercise control." No direct link to the crime needed.

"Article 28: Responsibility of commanders and other superiors
In addition to other grounds of criminal responsibility under this Statute for crimes within the jurisdiction of the Court:

(a) A military commander or person effectively acting as a military commander shall be criminally
responsible for crimes within the jurisdiction of the Court committed by forces under his or her
effective command and control, or effective authority and control as the case may be, as a result of his
or her failure to exercise control properly over such forces, where:

(i) That military commander or person either knew or, owing to the circumstances at the time,
should have known that the forces were committing or about to commit such crimes; and

(ii) That military commander or person failed to take all necessary and reasonable measures
within his or her power to prevent or repress their commission or to submit the matter to the
competent authorities for investigation and prosecution."
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:48 am to
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Which is why Russia developed the Javelin cages which obviously don't work.

If nothing else has been proven during this shite show, this has.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:52 am to
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He looked bruised and very pale but spoke lucidly in the tone of a professional

If I had a dollar for every time someone said this about me....
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:05 pm to
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Which is why Russia developed the Javelin cages which obviously don't work.

If nothing else has been proven during this shite show, this has.




Intel analyst are calling the cages "emotional support armor".
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21221 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:06 pm to
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Holy frick the tds never ends

It appears you have stage 4, baw. I know bush and Obama didn't executive order away reporting drone strike info to the public, about civilian deaths outside of declared war zones Y'all crazy fricks wanted to give him a fricking Nobel peace prize
Posted by Sooner5030
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:11 pm to
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Charles Lister
@Charles_Lister
NEW -- S-300 air defense systems have been sent into #Ukraine, by U.S. or #NATO allies -- per @RepMcCaul, the top Republican in the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:14 pm to
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Charles Lister
@Charles_Lister
NEW -- S-300 air defense systems have been sent into #Ukraine, by U.S. or #NATO allies -- per @RepMcCaul, the top Republican in the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

Where are we getting these weapon systems?

It's not exactly like gathering up a pile of AK's and RPG's from around the globe.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34910 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:16 pm to
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This is the OT


I don't give a crap where it is, you keep your trap shut about people wives.

To some this is not a joking matter.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:16 pm to
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this war of hitting hospitals and schools. They've hit multiples of both in multiple cities. Intentional?


They did the same thing in Syria and Georgia. It’s their MO, and intentional.
Posted by Sooner5030
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:16 pm to
Im guessing Bulgaria, Greece and Slovakia.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:18 pm to
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It's horrendous reporting. They may or may not be compelled to speak, but our media blatantly biased toward the idea that they're not when captured in war time is a pretty bad indictment of the media class.

It's not horrendous reporting. That would imply they're not framing these articles in a certain way on purpose, which they are.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:20 pm to
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Im guessing Bulgaria, Greece and Slovakia.


Yeah Poland as well
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:20 pm to
@sentdefender (w/ speculation/near confirmation from pretty much everyone)
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There are reports that U.S. Government has Approved a Large Transfer of the AeroVironment Switchblade 300 Tactical Missile System to the Ukrainian Military, the Switchblade is consider a "Kamikaze" Loitering Munitions Drone and can Travel over 4 Miles Miles to hit Russian Targets LINK
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139066 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:23 pm to
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There are reports that U.S. Government has Approved a Large Transfer of the AeroVironment Switchblade 300 Tactical Missile System to the Ukrainian Military, the Switchblade is consider a "Kamikaze" Loitering Munitions Drone and can Travel over 4 Miles Miles to hit Russian Targets LINK


Interesting. Apparently these things get launched out of a mortar tube



Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 12:26 pm to
Black sea/balkan area NATO countries id assume
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