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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:06 am to WDE24
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:06 am to WDE24
May largely be a formality at this point given all of the ill-will he's cultivated across the globe, but what happens to the Russian government as far as international relations and commerce if Putin is formally tried and convicted as a war criminal in absentia?
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:15 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Then I assume you support rounding up Obama and Bush
Bush left the country, for the first time, since leaving office, to go to the Vancouver Olympics. A big contingent went to his hotel, demanding he be brought to the Hague and tried. He hauled arse back to Tejas, and has not left the country since.
He does not want to have to answer for all of those WMD lies.
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 10:20 am
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:24 am to Hangit
Now that we've convicted both Obama and Bush for war crimes, lets talk about what Trump did when the ICC (international criminal court) decided to open an investigation into war crimes in Afghanistan carried out by all sides, including the US. And let's forget all of the folks pardoned by the president that were accused of commuting war crimes....
The point I'm trying to make here is not political. It's that war is messy, and unpleasant things happen in war. If you don't want to get pulled in to the mess, don't start a war.
The point I'm trying to make here is not political. It's that war is messy, and unpleasant things happen in war. If you don't want to get pulled in to the mess, don't start a war.
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 10:27 am
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:24 am to Lakeboy7
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/15/europe/ukraine-russian-prisoners-of-war-intl/index.html
Captured Russians appear to be criticizing Putin without coercion.
Captured Russians appear to be criticizing Putin without coercion.
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Kyiv, Ukraine (CNN)"I want to tell our commander-in-chief to stop terror acts in Ukraine because when we come back we'll rise against him."
Russian President Vladimir Putin "has given orders to commit crimes. It's not just to demilitarize Ukraine or defeat the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but now cities of peaceful civilians are being destroyed."
"The crimes that we committed; we all will be judged."
These are the voices of Russian prisoners of war now held by Ukraine.
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But three captured Russian air force pilots who spoke to CNN did not suggest they were speaking under duress.
CNN requested access to speak with the prisoners with the Ukrainian Interior Ministry. That request was made prior to a press conference that took place in Kyiv on Friday. CNN spoke with the three men immediately after that press conference.
CNN were the only journalists in the room and at no time did Ukrainian Security Services, who were in the room throughout, interject or direct CNN or the prisoners to ask or answer specific questions. The interview was conducted in Russian.
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Maxim, an officer and fighter-bomber pilot, did most of the talking. He looked bruised and very pale but spoke lucidly in the tone of a professional soldier. CNN is using only the first names of the prisoners of war for their own protection.
He said he had only received his "secret combat order" the day before Putin announced the "special military operation" against Ukraine.
The pilots were asked what they thought about Putin's claims that Ukraine was run by neo-Nazis.
"I think it was invented as a pretext and is something that the world cannot understand," Maxim said. "But Putin and his circle need this in order to achieve their own objectives. One such step was that it would be beneficial for them to spread disinformation about fascism and Nazism."
"We didn't see any Nazis or fascists. Russians and Ukrainians can communicate in the same language, so we see the good (in these people)," Maxim said.
"It's hard to give a direct assessment of his actions. But, at the bare minimum, judging by the consequences of his orders, he is incorrect."
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:27 am to Lonnie Utah
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lets talk about what Trump did when the ICC (international criminal court) decided to open an investigation into war crimes in Afghanistan carried out by all sides, including the US.....
Holy frick the tds never ends
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:36 am to Lonnie Utah
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Now that we've convicted both Obama and Bush for war crimes
You responded to me. Link to me talking aboot the Kenyan, please.
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Lonnie Utah
Pics of wives?
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:38 am to GREENHEAD22
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One of the theories on why Russia has mainly carried this out with 30-40 yr old equipment is because they knew the US would be assisting Ukraine with air/drone operations. They expect major losses because of this and have held their new equipment back hoping to be able to pull this off without mobilizing it. Hence for all the old arse T72s they are using
That theory is bullshite. The reason why Russia is using old equipment is because most of their equipment is old equipment. Per open source intel and wikipedia Russia has 0 T14s in their active military and the few T14s they do have are only used for parades and testing. Russia stopped buying T90s from roughly 2005 - 2015 to focus its efforts on building T90s for export and using the money for developing the T14. As a result the Russian army had less than 100 T90Ms and less than 300 T90As before the “special military operation” began. The T90Ms are less than 10 years old but the T90As were built in the 1990s and are basically a modernized T72. Most of Russia’s tanks are modernized T72s. The same goes with their APCs and other equipment. Which is not necessarily a bad thing because the Soviet equipment was designed to be updated with time and easily repaired. That is how Ukraine which was down to less than 50 operational tanks in 2015 was able to pull over 500 rusting Soviet tanks out of its massive tank graveyards and modernize them over the past 7 years. The only problems with modernizing old Soviet tanks are that they still store their ammo under the turret and the Russian active protection systems which are supposed to be able to defeat javelins and other modern ATGMs can’t be mounted on to them because of the shape of the turret. Which is why Russia developed the Javelin cages which obviously don’t work.
That theory also doesn’t stand up when you compare Russian and Ukrainian night fighting capabilities. Ukraine has been outfitted with semi modern western NVDs while Russian troops mostly don’t have them. If the theory you posted was true, it would not explain why Russian troops don’t have NVDs.
The simple reason why Russia is using old equipment is because that is all they have. The reason why that is all they have is because Russia built just enough modern equipment to look good at parades and trained just enough special forces and crack troops to beat small insurgent groups alongside an allied army like Syria. The vast majority of the Russian military is made up of 2 year conscripts and old equipment. Which is what a nation gets when it spends 10% as much money on defense as the USA does and then has a large part of that stolen by its leaders.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:41 am to Hangit
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Pics of wives?
Get bent pervert.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:44 am to Slippy
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But three captured Russian air force pilots who spoke to CNN did not suggest they were speaking under duress.
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He looked bruised and very pale but spoke lucidly in the tone of a professional soldier.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:50 am to WeeWee
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The reason why Russia is using old equipment is because most of their equipment is old equipment.
If Putin survives he has some tough questions to answer at home. Billions have been appropriated AND spent on new weapons system and aircraft....but they mainly exist for foreign military sales. The money for the new stuff in the Russian military inventory has been stolen. A theft of that magnitude has to come from the top.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:52 am to WeeWee
And by the way, frick Zelensky for bringing up and invoking MLK and his “I Have a Dream” speech. What fricking balls of basically all people to bring up to try to justify WWIII. I can say with 100% certainty that MLK would be against doing a No Fly Zone in Ukraine:
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 10:54 am
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:54 am to Lakeboy7
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If Putin survives he has some tough questions to answer at home. Billions have been appropriated AND spent on new weapons system and aircraft....but they mainly exist for foreign military sales. The money for the new stuff in the Russian military inventory has been stolen. A theft of that magnitude has to come from the top.
I almost asked if anyone had even gotten a whiff of a T-14. It looks like most of the AK-12's captured have no optics or lasers on them and I've heard a lot of soldiers don't even have basic body armor. It's pretty wild.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:58 am to upgrayedd
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if anyone had even gotten a whiff of a T-14. It looks like most of the AK-12's captured have no optics or lasers on them and I've heard a lot of soldiers don't even have basic body armor. It's pretty wild.
The aircraft is where the real robbery happened, millions per unit and they just dont exist. And I bet there are navy vessels on the books that dont exist. Paid for, dont exist.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:59 am to Lakeboy7
BBC
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Nato senior military officials say President Putin has clearly not achieved his military goals in Ukraine so far and "probably will not at the end of the day".
But they added that Russian forces still had the capacity to do "a lot of damage".
The defence officials said that while Russian forces had made gains in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, they had still failed to encircle Kyiv - which they said Russia had expected to do in a matter of days.
An expected Russian amphibious assault in the south near Odessa had also, so far, failed to materialise.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:07 am to UASports23
quote:I've got no experience so I've got to ask -- are the Russian losses of generals something to be expected from the situation, or would there likely be intel coming in to Ukraine about their positioning in particular?
Fourth Russian general killed in action,
Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:12 am to tokenBoiler
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intel coming in to Ukraine about their positioning in particular?
Common language and the Russians do not have secure comms so the Ukrainians are listening. It may also be something so simple as hitting the vehicles with the most antennas which are command and control.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:19 am to Lonnie Utah
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Lonnie Utah
This is the OT. There is no whoring up, and crying, aboot a stupid joke. And you forgot the link.
Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:23 am to facher08
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He's smoking, but alive at that point.
I just want to say that if I had a dollar for every time someone has said this about me....
Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:27 am to LegendInMyMind
From Hu Xijin, Chinese State Media, which may as well be a statement from Xi Jinping himself:
Just applause? it’s hypocritical. If the US really wants to show justice, it should send troops to Ukraine, or at least set up a no-fly zone, and fight Putin’s troops directly, even that means sacrifice of US soldiers. Don’t just incite Ukrainians to die for American interest
Just applause? it’s hypocritical. If the US really wants to show justice, it should send troops to Ukraine, or at least set up a no-fly zone, and fight Putin’s troops directly, even that means sacrifice of US soldiers. Don’t just incite Ukrainians to die for American interest
Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:35 am to tokenBoiler
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I've got no experience so I've got to ask -- are the Russian losses of generals something to be expected from the situation, or would there likely be intel coming in to Ukraine about their positioning in particular?
Russia lost two generals in Syria. One in a rocket attack, one on a fricking combat patrol of all things. As stated elsewhere in the thread, the Russian army thinks of enlisted men as children incapable of independent action. It considers it's NCOs to be slightly more capable enlisted men rather than a professional cadre of middle managers. That means officers, including general officers, have to put themselves in the line of fire much more often than in western militaries.
Having said that, four in less than three weeks seems like a lot. And the last one apparently had his division command post overrun,which is a bad look no matter how you slice it.
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 1:09 pm
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